{ "export": { "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/4919", "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 4919, "subject": "Wolfe Wins World Fantasy Award", "messages": 8, "voices": 7, "first": "2007-11-03T21:47:30+00:00", "last": "2007-11-07T19:49:43+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "<472CEC72.7080407@majitek.com>", "from": { "name": "Steve Taylor", "address": "steve.taylor at majitek.com" }, "date": "2007-11-03T21:47:30+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Wolfe stories", "in_reply_to": "<967870900711052137w9e21b1fx1649b209d1a13f5b@mail.gmail.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I've been mostly lurking here for ages, impressed by the level of \nerudition and analysis - I'm not a particularly analytical reader at the \nbest of times, and I sometimes wonder whether I'm the sort of person who \nshould be reading Wolfe in the first place. Most of the discussion has \nbeen centered on the novels though, and I tend to read his short stories \nmore.\n\nIs there any archive of discussion on his shorter works - or do people \nmind if I just ask \"what the hell was that all about\" about a particular \nstory?\n\n\n\n Steve" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Joe Bushong-Taylor", "address": "joebt01 at gmail.com" }, "date": "2007-11-04T22:47:08+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Wolfe Wins World Fantasy Award", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Gene Wolfe has won the World Fantasy Award for Best Novel of 2006 for *Soldier\nof Sidon*. The presentation of the award came at the World Fantasy\nConvention awards banquet today in Sarasota Springs, NY.\n\nI find it gratifying that the fantasy community has recognized the\nimportance of this work and, indeed, of Gene's contributions as a whole. If\nyou have put off reading the Soldier books, get to them. The unfolding\nstory of Latro offers insight into how we deal with loss, and the nature of\npersonal identity.\n\nIn accepting the award, Gene noted that his decision to write the novel was\ndue, in part, to the requests of many readers that he continue the story of\nLatro. He also hinted that he may heed calls he has received already\nto continue the story even further." } ] }, { "message_id": "<967870900711052137w9e21b1fx1649b209d1a13f5b@mail.gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "mark mullis", "address": "markmullis at gmail.com" }, "date": "2007-11-06T05:37:08+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Wolfe Wins World Fantasy Award", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "A big congratulations to Gene. If I reason correctly, this is the most\nillustrious award he's received for an individual work (in other words:\ndiscounting the \"Lifetime Achievement\" award he received from the same panel\na few years back).\n\nThe Latro books are shaping up to be every bit as significant an aspect of\nhis legacy as the trinity of Sun books.\n\nBy the way, this is my first contribution to the mailing list. I've been\nslowly working my way through the archives, reveling in the knowledge that\nthere is a forum on the internet for Wolfe fans to interact. I'm also\neagerly awaiting the spike in discussion that will inevitably follow Pirate\nFreedom's publication next week.\n\n\nMark Mullis\nmarkmullis at gmail.com" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "James Crossley", "address": "ishmael at drizzle.com" }, "date": "2007-11-06T06:13:20+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Wolfe Wins World Fantasy Award", "in_reply_to": "<967870900711052137w9e21b1fx1649b209d1a13f5b@mail.gmail.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On 11/5/07 9:37 PM, \"mark mullis\" wrote:\nA big congratulations to Gene. If I reason correctly, this is the most\nillustrious award he's received for an individual work (in other words:\ndiscounting the \"Lifetime Achievement\" award he received from the same panel a\nfew years back). " }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "He won the same award in 1981 for Shadow of the Torturer.\n\nJames" } ] }, { "message_id": "<44fb53d10711061751i7b16f6c9td39bd7c8bb04d0ed@mail.gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "Matthew Keeley", "address": "matthew.keeley.1 at gmail.com" }, "date": "2007-11-07T01:51:16+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Wolfe stories", "in_reply_to": "<472CEC72.7080407@majitek.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "If you search the archive on urth.net, you'll find that there have been\nquite a few discussions of individual stories, most started by someone\nasking \"What the hell was that all about?\" I'd recommend looking there\nfirst, but obviously feel free to put in your own thoughts. It might also be\nworth checking the WolfeWiki at http://www.holkar.net/pmwiki/\n\n-Matt" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On 11/3/07, Steve Taylor wrote:\n\nI've been mostly lurking here for ages, impressed by the level of\nerudition and analysis - I'm not a particularly analytical reader at the\nbest of times, and I sometimes wonder whether I'm the sort of person who\nshould be reading Wolfe in the first place. Most of the discussion has\nbeen centered on the novels though, and I tend to read his short stories\nmore.\n\nIs there any archive of discussion on his shorter works - or do people\nmind if I just ask \"what the hell was that all about\" about a particular\nstory?\n\n\n\n Steve\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<967870900711062159j56918471l2ab90301e1aacb44@mail.gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "mark mullis", "address": "markmullis at gmail.com" }, "date": "2007-11-07T05:59:10+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Wolfe stories", "in_reply_to": "<44fb53d10711061751i7b16f6c9td39bd7c8bb04d0ed@mail.gmail.com>", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "If you search the archive on urth.net, you'll find that there have been" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "quite a few discussions of individual stories, most started by someone\nasking \"What the hell was that all about?\" I'd recommend looking there\nfirst, but obviously feel free to put in your own thoughts. It might also be\nworth checking the WolfeWiki at http://www.holkar.net/pmwiki/\n\n-Matt" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "The WolfeWiki is a damn ambitious project, but has a terribly long way to go\nbefore it's anything of an authoritative resource; even the pages for most\nof the major works are incomplete. Of course, the vague authority of a wiki\nwill inevitably be strained further still by attempting to document\nsomething as elusive as the works of GW.\n\nDo you, or does anyone else here, know who's running it, exactly?\n\n\nmark mullis\nmarkmullis at gmail.com" } ] }, { "message_id": "<20071107090139.3DEAAFE9E@che.dreamhost.com>", "from": { "name": "Mo Holkar", "address": "lists at ukg.co.uk" }, "date": "2007-11-07T09:01:34+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Wolfe stories", "in_reply_to": "<967870900711062159j56918471l2ab90301e1aacb44@mail.gmail.com>", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "At 05:59 07/11/2007, you wrote:\nThe WolfeWiki is a damn ambitious project, but has a terribly long \nway to go before it's anything of an authoritative resource; even \nthe pages for most of the major works are incomplete. Of course, \nthe vague authority of a wiki will inevitably be strained further \nstill by attempting to document something as elusive as the works of GW.\n\nDo you, or does anyone else here, know who's running it, exactly?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I'm hosting and administering it, but most of the contribution so far \nhas been by Dan'l, Matt and Stone Ox (all of this list).\n\nIt certainly is very incomplete -- the bibliography, external links \netc have come along pretty well, but the only works treated in any \ngreat analytical detail so far are Peace and the IoDDaOSaOS \ncollection. But I think that what we have there for those is \nterrifically interesting, and provides a good model for the rest that \nwill follow.\n\nIf anyone would like to come along and contribute capsule summaries \nof the missing works, you'd be very welcome on the wiki!\n\nbest,\n\nMo\n\n\n# ~ # ~ #\n\nWolfeWiki\nhttp://www.holkar.net/pmwiki/ " } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Michael Straight", "address": "mfstraight at gmail.com" }, "date": "2007-11-07T19:49:43+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Wolfe stories", "in_reply_to": "<472CEC72.7080407@majitek.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Welcome, Steve. Ask away. I've had more than one of Wolfe's short\nstories go from \"What was that?\" to \"Wow, what a great story!\" thanks\nto insight of people on the list.\n\nNo promises, of course, but people here are generally happy to respond\nto a \"What's going on at the end of this story?\"\n\nRostrum" } ] } ] }