# his own father

*The Urth list — 2 messages, 2 voices, 15 Dec 2007*

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### Ashley Crill
*15 Dec 2007, 00:51*

>> 2) Is the Cumaean the heavenly same being that Sev sleeps with in the> fifth volume, while on Yesod? (By the way, has it come up in the> discussions that Yesod means "foundation" in Hebrew?) I seem to> remember from my last reading of Urth of the NS that Severian implies> that he fathers himself in that encounter.

During that encounter, Severian gave birth to the New Sun, which was himself. Hopefully that clears it up. =)

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### Jeff Wilson
*15 Dec 2007, 09:32 · in reply to Ashley Crill*

>>> Ashley Crill wrote:
>>> 2) Is the Cumaean the heavenly same being that Sev sleeps with in the> fifth volume, while on Yesod? (By the way, has it come up in the> discussions that Yesod means "foundation" in Hebrew?) I seem to> remember from my last reading of Urth of the NS that Severian implies> that he fathers himself in that encounter.

> During that encounter, Severian gave birth to the New Sun, which was himself. Hopefully that clears it up. =)

Ouch! I presume he glossed over the necessary C-section?

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