# A Cabin on the Coast

*The Urth list — 4 messages, 4 voices, 16 Jan 2008*

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### Michael Straight
*16 Jan 2008, 19:15*

Anyone else think that Pirate Freedom can be seen as an expanded
version of the Wolfe short story "A Cabin on the Coast"?

-- Rostrum

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### Matthew Groves
*16 Jan 2008, 21:41 · in reply to Michael Straight*

Yes, absolutely.  I think one source of their resemblance, and the
similarity of other Wolfe stories, is due to Wolfe's absorption of
Robert Graves's The White Goddess.

> On 1/16/08, Michael Straight <mfstraight at gmail.com> wrote:
> Anyone else think that Pirate Freedom can be seen as an expanded
> version of the Wolfe short story "A Cabin on the Coast"?
> 
> -- Rostrum

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### Matthew Keeley
*16 Jan 2008, 23:04 · in reply to Matthew Groves*

I saw your "Interpreting Wolfe" list on Amazon; I see you put The
White Goddess on that too. It's one of those things I've been meaning
to read for a while, and learning it's influenced by Wolfe makes me
want to read it more. In a similar vein, is there any evidence that
Wolfe has read Frazer's Golden Bough (Or at least some of it - The
whole work is 13 volumes or something ridiculous like that).

Not to sound silly, but do you think you could elaborate just a bit on
the Frazer-Wolfe connection in Pirate Freedom? I don't know much about
Graves, and there wasn't anything in PF that just screamed "White
Goddess" to me, a layman. I suppose I could see some influence in New
Sun, but PF, not so much. I don't doubt it's there, it's just I don't
know enough to see it.

-Matt

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### Roy C. Lackey
*17 Jan 2008, 05:45 · follows Matthew Keeley*

> Matthew Groves wrote:
> Yes, absolutely.  I think one source of their resemblance, and the
> similarity of other Wolfe stories, is due to Wolfe's absorption of
> Robert Graves's The White Goddess.

I vowed at the time Marc Aramini posted what Wolfe really had to say about
_The White Goddess_ that I was going to post a link to that post every time
someone raised the specter of _The White Goddess_ and its supposed influence
on Wolfe. I can't seem to find it now, so it must be in the year of lost
archives. Could you send it again, Marc?

-Roy

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