# Another PF Inspiration? *The Urth list — 7 messages, 3 voices, 05 Feb 2008* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Matthew Keeley *05 Feb 2008, 05:19* Does the plot of this series sound like PF at all to anyone? It seems like something Wolfe could have read in his youth; I know the stories were pretty well-known into the 50's, when Disney did a rough adaptation of some of the stories with Patrick McGoohan, star of The Prisoner, a rather Lupine show. Anyone read these? I gather some are still in print I gather (though the Wikipedia entry more or less gives away the entire plot). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Syn -Matt --- ### David Duffy *05 Feb 2008, 06:42 · in reply to Matthew Keeley* Has he reviewed it elsewhere? It doesn't go too deeply into analysis (after all it is a review), though he mentions the possibility of 3rd or 4th iterations of Chris. I can give more details if people are interested. David Duffy. ``` | David Duffy (MBBS PhD) ,-_|\ | email: davidD at qimr.edu.au ph: INT+61+7+3362-0217 fax: -0101 / * | Epidemiology Unit, Queensland Institute of Medical Research \_,-._/ | 300 Herston Rd, Brisbane, Queensland 4029, Australia GPG 4D0B994A v ``` --- ### brunians at brunians.org *05 Feb 2008, 08:12 · in reply to Matthew Keeley* Yo ho ho, a pirate AND a smuggler AND a highwayman! What a guy! . > Does the plot of this series sound like PF at all to anyone? It seems > like something Wolfe could have read in his youth; I know the stories > were pretty well-known into the 50's, when Disney did a rough > adaptation of some of the stories with Patrick McGoohan, star of The > Prisoner, a rather Lupine show. Anyone read these? I gather some are > still in print I gather (though the Wikipedia entry more or less gives > away the entire plot). > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Syn > > -Matt > _______________________________________________ --- ### brunians at brunians.org *05 Feb 2008, 08:13 · in reply to David Duffy* Please do. . > Has he reviewed it elsewhere? It doesn't go too deeply into analysis > (after all it is a review), though he mentions the possibility of 3rd or > 4th iterations of Chris. I can give more details if people are > interested. > > David Duffy. > -- > | David Duffy (MBBS PhD) ,-_|\ > | email: davidD at qimr.edu.au ph: INT+61+7+3362-0217 fax: -0101 / * > | Epidemiology Unit, Queensland Institute of Medical Research \_,-._/ > | 300 Herston Rd, Brisbane, Queensland 4029, Australia GPG 4D0B994A v > _______________________________________________ --- ### Matthew Keeley *05 Feb 2008, 15:43 · in reply to brunians at brunians.org* And a vicar! That's what really struck me. -Matt > On Feb 5, 2008 8:12 AM, wrote: > Yo ho ho, a pirate AND a smuggler AND a highwayman! What a guy! --- ### brunians at brunians.org *05 Feb 2008, 16:32 · in reply to Matthew Keeley* AND his name is Christopher! I think you might be onto something. . > And a vicar! That's what really struck me. > > -Matt > > > On Feb 5, 2008 8:12 AM, wrote: >> Yo ho ho, a pirate AND a smuggler AND a highwayman! What a guy! > _____________________________ --- ### David Duffy *05 Feb 2008, 22:02 · in reply to David Duffy* > On Tue, 5 Feb 2008, David Duffy wrote: > Has he reviewed it elsewhere? It doesn't go too deeply into analysis > (after all it is a review), though he mentions the possibility of 3rd or > 4th iterations of Chris. Actually, he doesn't mention further iterations and says the maze is unicursal ;) OK. This is in the NYRSF Jan issue, only one page. Generally liked it, though found a bit Catholic ;) "Angriest and most fun" most amusing claim: "any character in any Wolfe novel whose emotional response to any event is deeper than seems exactly appropriate is fairly likely to be the protagonist of that novel in a guise we have not yet encountered". So, he implies that as he read it he was suspicious of i) Ignacio crying; ii) "We are almost dead certain" that on P 23-24, the man whose chicken is stolen is Chris [see P 310]. comparisons: Severian - tall and thin, seen as dark; excel in fighting; charismatic; repressed extreme emotions; attractive to (untrustworthy) women; torturers; God speaks to them directly; inhumanly acure moral judgements; write confessions. It seems to me this equally applies to Latro and Able though. difference: too certain in faith, "Savaranola-intense" reason for confession: convince the reader that "life as a pirate [is] a good preparation for becoming a priest". Well, self-justification anyway. And ends: "The reader may envy the sea-foam and clarity of that past, and would be there with him in a flash of trance, if given entry. But the reader may also take [the] final sentence as a dreadful warning: Danger! We are the people. We are you." Well you either like Clute's writing style or you don't. Cheers, David Duffy. ---