# Lexicon Second Edition mailing list

*The Urth list — 15 messages, 11 voices, 25 Feb 2008*

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### Roy C. Lackey
*25 Feb 2008, 19:10*

-----Original Message-----

> From: Michael Andre-Driussi <mantis at siriusfiction.com>
> To: Roy C. Lackey <rclackey at stic.net>
> Date: Sunday, February 24, 2008 11:32 PM
> Subject: Lexicon Second Edition mailing list
> Hello there Roy,
> 
> People have bugged me for this sort of thing, so I've finally got it 
> going.  Please make an announcement for the list...
> 
> People who want to have an email message as soon as the second 
> edition of the Lexicon is available should visit the Sirius Fiction 
> web page now.  There is a new button and sign up thingie that should 
> take care of it.
> 
> Thanks in advance, Roy!
> 
> =Michael=

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### Jeff Wilson
*25 Feb 2008, 23:08 · in reply to Roy C. Lackey*

> Roy C. Lackey wrote:
> From: Michael Andre-Driussi <mantis at siriusfiction.com>
> People who want to have an email message as soon as the second 
> edition of the Lexicon is available should visit the Sirius Fiction 
> web page now.  There is a new button and sign up thingie that should 
> take care of it.

For those who prefer reading detective stories to enacting them:

	http://www.siriusfiction.com/

```
Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com
< http://www.io.com/~jwilson >
```

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### don doggett
*25 Feb 2008, 23:20 · in reply to Jeff Wilson*

Hmmm. Sirius + Fiction + web page. Could it be
siriusfiction.com? Perhaps the answer is in
mantis at siriusfiction.com?
Thanks Roy, and thanks to Mantis.

Don

> Roy C. Lackey wrote:

>> From: Michael Andre-Driussi
>> <mantis at siriusfiction.com>
>> People who want to have an email message as soon
>> as the second 
>> edition of the Lexicon is available should visit
>> the Sirius Fiction 
>> web page now.  There is a new button and sign up
>> thingie that should 
>> take care of it.

> --- Jeff Wilson <jwilson at io.com> wrote:
> For those who prefer reading detective stories to
> enacting them:
> 
> 	http://www.siriusfiction.com/
> 
> -- 
> Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com
> < http://www.io.com/~jwilson >
> _______________________________________________

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### James Crossley
*26 Feb 2008, 00:30 · in reply to Roy C. Lackey*

Regardless of what the url is or who did or didn't provide it, this is
excellent news.  I already have the unbound update to the original lexicon,
but I'll be wanting the finished new version just to support all the great
work that went into the original (and the ongoing) project.

Thanks for the update.

James

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### Jeff Wilson
*27 Feb 2008, 06:03 · in reply to don doggett*

> don doggett wrote:
> Hmmm. Sirius + Fiction + web page. Could it be
> siriusfiction.com? Perhaps the answer is in
> mantis at siriusfiction.com?

Perhaps there are similar lacunae in the book, not as obvious?

```
Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com
< http://www.io.com/~jwilson >
```

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### Jeff Wilson
*07 Mar 2008, 20:16 · in reply to Jeff Wilson*

Some of the list links are saying there's no list now. Did something 
happen?  I can't get to the most recent archives as it is.

```
Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com
< http://www.io.com/~jwilson >
```

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### Dan'l Danehy-Oakes
*07 Mar 2008, 20:37 · in reply to Jeff Wilson*

There is no list. I did not receive your note and you are not
reading this reply.

> On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Jeff Wilson <jwilson at io.com> wrote:
> Some of the list links are saying there's no list now. Did something
>  happen?  I can't get to the most recent archives as it is.
> 
>  --
>  Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com
>  < http://www.io.com/~jwilson >
>  _______________________________________________
>  Urth Mailing List
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-----
http://www.livejournal.com/users/sturgeonslawyer
http://www.danehyoakes.com

I once absend-mindedly ordered Three Mile Island dressing in a
restaurant and, with great presence of mind, they brought Thousand
Island Dressing and a bottle of chili sauce. -- T. Pratchett
```

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### Ranjit Bhatnagar
*07 Mar 2008, 20:41 · in reply to Dan'l Danehy-Oakes*

The hosting service (dreamhost) sent me a warning a few weeks ago that
they were going to move the service to a new machine, and that there
was a slight chance that things would break.  Things did break,
apparently, and I've been remiss in doing anything about it.  I just
contacted tech support and asked them to make things go again.

- Ranjit

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### gwern0 at gmail.com
*07 Mar 2008, 20:50 · in reply to Dan'l Danehy-Oakes*

On 2008.03.07 12:37:30 -0800, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes <danldo at gmail.com> scribbled 0.8K characters:

> There is no list. I did not receive your note and you are not
> reading this reply.
> 
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Jeff Wilson <jwilson at io.com> wrote:

>> Some of the list links are saying there's no list now. Did something
>>  happen?  I can't get to the most recent archives as it is.
>> 
>>  --
>>  Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com
>>  < http://www.io.com/~jwilson >

>>  Urth Mailing List
>>  To post, write urth at urth.net
>>  Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net

> --
> Dan'l Danehy-Oakes, writer, trainer, bon vivant

As I was walking down the stairs,
I saw a list which wasn't there.
I saw the list again today -
How I wish it'd just go away!

```
gwern
mega Cohiba Galil munitions M72750 Internet 20 UOP WASS Information
```

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### Recursive Loop
*07 Mar 2008, 20:56 · in reply to Dan'l Danehy-Oakes*

"There is no list. I did not receive your note and you are not
reading this reply."

There is nothing to see here. These aren't the droids you are searching for. You can go about your
business. Move along!

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### brunians at brunians.org
*07 Mar 2008, 22:48 · in reply to Jeff Wilson*

Jeff Wilson writes:

> Some of the list links are saying there's no list now. Did something
> happen?  I can't get to the most recent archives as it is.

Did a large procession wave their torches while its head fell in the basket
And is everybody dancing on the casket?
Now it's over its dead and it hasn't
Done anything that it wants or it's
Still alive and there's nothing it wants to do.

--apologies to TMBG

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### brunians at brunians.org
*07 Mar 2008, 22:49 · in reply to Dan'l Danehy-Oakes*

I have always been loyal to the Group of Seventeen!


.

> There is no list. I did not receive your note and you are not
> reading this reply.
> 
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Jeff Wilson <jwilson at io.com> wrote:

>> Some of the list links are saying there's no list now. Did something
>>  happen?  I can't get to the most recent archives as it is.
>> 
>>  --
>>  Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com
>>  < http://www.io.com/~jwilson >
>>  _______________________________________________
>>  Urth Mailing List
>>  To post, write urth at urth.net
>>  Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net

> --
> Dan'l Danehy-Oakes, writer, trainer, bon vivant
> -----
> http://www.livejournal.com/users/sturgeonslawyer
> http://www.danehyoakes.com
> 
> I once absend-mindedly ordered Three Mile Island dressing in a
> restaurant and, with great presence of mind, they brought Thousand
> Island Dressing and a bottle of chili sauce. -- T. Pratchett
> _______________________________________________

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### Dan'l Danehy-Oakes
*08 Mar 2008, 00:26 · in reply to brunians at brunians.org*

> On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 2:49 PM,  <brunians at brunians.org> wrote:
> I have always been loyal to the Group of Seventeen!

We have always been at war with East Ascia.

```
Dan'l Danehy-Oakes, writer, trainer, bon vivant
-----
http://www.livejournal.com/users/sturgeonslawyer
http://www.danehyoakes.com

I once absend-mindedly ordered Three Mile Island dressing in a
restaurant and, with great presence of mind, they brought Thousand
Island Dressing and a bottle of chili sauce. -- T. Pratchett
```

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### stoneox17 at aol.com
*10 Mar 2008, 18:36 · in reply to brunians at brunians.org*

Some questions, which I think answer each other.
Apologies if this has been discussed before, but I don't
remember it.

Who killed Valentin?

The obvious suspect is Lesage, who seems to be the only
person who really hated him.

But how did Lesage know where to find him?  And, in a
related vein, what did Ignacio do to win Lesage's trust?

If the answers are what I think they are, this is really chilling.

Peter

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### Matthew Keeley
*10 Mar 2008, 19:07 · in reply to stoneox17 at aol.com*

Good questions; I'd love to hear your answers.

Re: Ignacio and Lesage: What evidence is there to suggest that Lesage ever
met "Ignacio?" It's been  Because I know some people have surmised that
Ignacio/Chris and Lesage are the same person. It's been a while since I read
the book though, so my memory may be serving me poorly.

As for Valentin - I don't know - I wonder if he killed himself? Chris
suggests that possibility... Or perhaps Lesage revealed himself to Valentin
as Chris and Valentin, seeing the truth, tried to kill his old tormentor?
And then Chris kills Valentin in self-defense?

Also - do we have any more thoughts on what caused Chris to go back in time
in the first place?

And what about that "Angel of Death" that Chris says he sees above one of
the boats?

-Matt

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