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This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 5027, "subject": "Urth of The New Sun", "messages": 6, "voices": 5, "first": "2008-05-14T13:36:25+00:00", "last": "2008-05-16T02:38:47+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Oliver Wakefield", "address": "radontrooper at hotmail.com" }, "date": "2008-05-14T13:36:25+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Urth of The New Sun", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "\"I don't know if I'd say \"required\" but it is he only way to make sense of what went on in the first four books. Well, as much sense as anything ever makes. (Urth of the New SUn)\"\n \nI am finding Urth harder than BOTN. Its writing style is perhaps easier to follow but it moves more into the metaphysics of the \"Sun\" universe, and as a person who is not so good at understanding such thingsit can be difficult. I would say this book is probably vital if your into understanding what happened in New Sun, though it is certainly a coda and BOTN is perfectly apt by itself. Whats the general consensus on Urth. Did those who have read it enjoy it? \n_________________________________________________________________\n\nDiscover and Win with Live Search\n\nhttp://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000007ukm/direct/01/" } ] }, { "message_id": "<39841.1210772835@speakeasy.net>", "from": { "name": "oblate777 at speakeasy.net", "address": "oblate777 at speakeasy.net" }, "date": "2008-05-14T13:47:15+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Urth of The New Sun", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "On Wed May 14 9:36 , Oliver Wakefield sent:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I am finding Urth harder than BOTN. Its writing style is perhaps easier to\nfollow but it moves more into the >metaphysics of the \"Sun\" universe, and as a\nperson who is not so good at understanding such things it can be \ndifficult. I would say this book is probably vital if your into understanding\nwhat happened in New Sun,\nthough it is certainly a coda and BOTN is perfectly apt by itself. Whats the\ngeneral consensus on Urth. Did >those who have read it enjoy it? " }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I enjoyed Urth. However, my strategy for Wolfe is generally \"read and enjoy the\nfirst round and leave the analysis till later readings.\" If I tried to analyze\nduring the first round I would get all tangled up.\n\nrob t." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Pedro Pereira", "address": "domus_artemis at hotmail.com" }, "date": "2008-05-14T13:47:24+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Urth of The New Sun", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I liked it pretty much. It complements the BOTNS perfectly. The writting style and pace is somewhat different, I can see some people not liking it as much as BOTNS, but I did like it quite much.\n\n\nFrom: radontrooper at hotmail.comTo: urth at urth.netDate: Wed, 14 May 2008 14:36:25 +0100Subject: (urth) Urth of The New Sun\n\n\n\"I don't know if I'd say \"required\" but it is he only way to make sense of what went on in the first four books. Well, as much sense as anything ever makes. (Urth of the New SUn)\" I am finding Urth harder than BOTN. Its writing style is perhaps easier to follow but it moves more into the metaphysics of the \"Sun\" universe, and as a person who is not so good at understanding such thingsit can be difficult. I would say this book is probably vital if your into understanding what happened in New Sun, though it is certainly a coda and BOTN is perfectly apt by itself. Whats the general consensus on Urth. Did those who have read it enjoy it? \n\nMessenger's gone Mobile! Get it now! " } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Pedro Pereira", "address": "domus_artemis at hotmail.com" }, "date": "2008-05-14T13:48:47+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Urth of The New Sun", "in_reply_to": "<39841.1210772835@speakeasy.net>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Bob Miller", "address": "bob_bageera at hotmail.com" }, "date": "2008-05-15T12:03:33+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Urth of The New Sun", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "anything ever makes. (Urth of the New SUn)\" I am finding Urth harder than BOTN. Its writing style is perhaps easier to follow but it moves more into the metaphysics of the \"Sun\" universe, and as a person who is not so good at understanding such thingsit can be difficult. I would say this book is probably vital if your into understanding what happened in New Sun, though it is certainly a coda and BOTN is perfectly apt by itself. Whats the general consensus on Urth. Did those who have read it enjoy it? I certainly enjoyed Urth. And no, not so much as the first four books. and yes I did enjoy the first four more than the Long Sun or Short Sun books and about equally to the first two Latro books.\n\nInvite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! " } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Steven", "address": "mcquaryq at comcast.net" }, "date": "2008-05-16T02:38:47+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Urth of The New Sun", "in_reply_to": "<39841.1210772835@speakeasy.net>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "\tI really enjoyed Urth -- Tzadkiel's ship, the 'evolution' from Zak, \netc. I don't claim perfect comprehension, but a wonder should \nperhaps retain some sense of wonder, no?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "On May 14, 2008, at 9:47 AM, \n wrote:\nWhats the\ngeneral consensus on Urth. Did >those who have read it enjoy it?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Steven" } ] } ] }