Urth Digest, Vol 46, Issue 2

The Urth list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 03 Jun 2008
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Telpeurion Telpeurion03 Jun 2008, 03:34
I agree that it is the second manuscript that Wolfe "recieved". Severian said he would copy the second the exactly the same as the first: which would include his mention of making a copy on the ship. Just because a book refers to an event in the future tense does not mean it hasn't happened already. It seems clear to me that Severian left his narrative exactly the same with no additions and nothing taken out.
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On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 7:46 PM, <urth-request at lists.urth.net> wrote: Send Urth mailing list submissions to urth at lists.urth.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.urth.net/listinfo.cgi/urth-urth.net or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to urth-request at lists.urth.net You can reach the person managing the list at urth-owner at lists.urth.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Urth digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Severian as a student (Dave Tallman) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 23:35:58 -0600 From: Dave Tallman <davetallman at msn.com> Subject: Re: (urth) Severian as a student To: urth at lists.urth.net Message-ID: <484386BE.5080200 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Roy C. Lackey wrote:
Again, what do you mean by "rewrite" and "second chance"? His original manuscript was written shortly before boarding the Ship and sent to Ultan. Whichever version Wolfe "translated", we have no means of comparing the Ship copy to the original. The events recounted in the manuscript were first written down ten years after Sev became autarch. There was no running account made over the years that he could redact at leisure. The copy seems to have been written out only days or weeks after completing the original manuscript.
Perhaps I am making an unjustified assumption, but I thought it was a given that the copy made on the time-traveling Ship was the only copy that Wolfe could have obtained and "translated." If the copy given to Ultan is the version we are reading, then my point is not valid. Severian could consult all the resources available to an Autarch to write the first one. If this is the second manuscript, it's too good in the level of detail and style to be the work of a person with an ordinary memory attempting to re-create the book they just wrote. Even though it was written soon after the other one, it still gave Severian a second chance to notice "Hey, what I wrote here is inconsistent with what I wrote there." The fact that it was rewritten within a short time makes the inconsistencies even more strange. His memory has to play tricks on him not only about the events themselves, but in his memory of writing about them. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________

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