Books etc. The Urth list — 2 messages, 2 voices, 23 Apr 1998 https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/510 Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. ============================================================================== Alice Turner — 23 Apr 1998, 19:18 Oh nuts, I wasn't going to to post to the latest questions till I got in gear, but you've all started without me, so I'll have to jump in. In the first week of mantis's course, students should read THE JUNGLE BOOK and the Theseus story, preferably from Graves, but other renditions are acceptable. Since they have already read TBOTNS, they can also read the account of Daedelus and the talus, etc.in the same volume; it would be a spoiler if they hadn't. The teacher should hand out appropriate selections from THE BOOK OF IMAGINARY BEINGS (it's out of print) and FICCIONES, sticking to those which are directly applicable (Baldanders etc.). Are we going to assume that the students know what sword & sorcery quest fiction is--i.e. will they have at least read Tolkien? Will they have some notion of 19th century Gothic fiction? I think we've got to assume some prior knowledge of sf, that they won't be thrown by robots and androids. Maybe you could assign THE DYING EARTH for this week too. This is an easy week, I think. Selections for later weeks are going to get much tougher. And I'm not going to get started on them yet! Though I bet you guys will. mantis, you're right about how I feel about Bloom's adoration of ARCTURUS, disconcerted. (I should explain to the group that Bloom was my MA thesis advisor.) But part of that was my reaction to his own perfectly dreadful "gnostic" Lindsayesque novel, the title of which I have mercifully forgotten. I do not think ARCTURUS should be part of the syllabus, however; if others disagree, I'd sincerely like to know why. Violence is not enough. -alga- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ m.driussi — 24 Apr 1998, 01:12 follows, by subject match Alice Turner Reply: Item #2720808 from URTH at LISTS.BEST.COM@INTERNET# alga, THE FLIGHT TO LUCIFER is the title you'd rather not remember. I like your plan for Week One. (The challenge or difficulty I think in trying to assemble a sillybus is that some books apply too generally and others too specifically to only one scene.) THE DYING EARTH is appropriately general to TBOTNS and specific as well: the general being the science fantasy decadent far future mileau, of course, and the specifics including how "Ulan Dhor Ends a Dream" links directly to the resurrection of the Stone Town at the end of CLAW; how "T'sais" and the magics which created her are echoed in the experiments of Baldanders, Dr. Talos, and the Student; maybe even "Liane the Wayfarer" is Vodalus? THE JUNGLE BOOK should be a fast and easy read, but maybe excerpts? "Mowgli and His Brothers" (if I've got the name right) is a must. Okay, excerpts from Borges BOIB and FICCIONES. From BOIB: "Baldanders" "The Chinese Phoenix" "The Crocotta and the Leucrocotta" (too specific?) "Fauna of Mirrors" "The Norns" "The Peryton" (too specific?) "The Phoenix" "The Salamander" (too specific?) "The Simurgh" (too specific?) "Talos" "The Uroboros" Hmmmm . . . THE DYING EARTH and THE JUNGLE BOOK and these extracts . . . the week should probably be called "Oriental Fabulations: Fabulous Orientations." =mantis= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------