{ "export": { "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/5103", "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 5103, "subject": "Summa Contra Hieros", "messages": 3, "voices": 3, "first": "2008-07-14T15:46:46+00:00", "last": "2008-07-14T19:38:15+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "<1f7617370807140846u38b2a7f5m15fa27c6d754987a@mail.gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes", "address": "danldo at gmail.com" }, "date": "2008-07-14T15:46:46+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Summa Contra Hieros", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "When you come right down to it.\n\nIsn't what the Hiero-Foos are doing,\nthe same thing Mr. Million/Maitre/Number 5 do,\nonly on a cosmic scale?\n\nRather than warping their own children to ensure their own repetition\nthey are warping entire cosmic cycles to do so.\n\nIf what the Line of Millions do in \"Cerberus\" is wrong,\nthen what the Hiero-Foos do is insanely wrong." }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes, writer, trainer, bon vivant\n-----\nhttp://www.livejournal.com/users/sturgeonslawyer\nhttp://www.danehyoakes.com\n\nI once absend-mindedly ordered Three Mile Island dressing in a\nrestaurant and, with great presence of mind, they brought Thousand\nIsland Dressing and a bottle of chili sauce. -- T. Pratchett" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "b sharp", "address": "bsharporflat at hotmail.com" }, "date": "2008-07-14T18:36:09+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Summa Contra Hieros", "in_reply_to": "<1f7617370807140846u38b2a7f5m15fa27c6d754987a@mail.gmail.com>", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes posts:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "When you come right down to it.\nIsn't what the Hiero-Foos are doing,\nthe same thing Mr. Million/Maitre/Number 5 do,\nonly on a cosmic scale?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Rather than warping their own children to ensure their own repetition\nthey are warping entire cosmic cycles to do so." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "If what the Line of Millions do in \"Cerberus\" is wrong,\nthen what the Hiero-Foos do is insanely wrong." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Hah! DDO, you'll get no argument from me. Personally I tend to value \nthe results of natural selection over carefully planned and engineered\nproducts.\n\nBut forced as I am to play Angel's Advocate I must say no, the Hiero-foos\nare superhuman and know just what the results of their tampering will be. Mr. \nMillion was human (originally) and (obviously) did not know what the results\nof his experiments would be. Gosh, his offspring are so much meaner than he\nis. I guess nurture matters after all ;-).\n\n\n_________________________________________________________________\nThe i’m Talkaton. Can 30-days of conversation change the world?\nhttp://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_ChangeWorld" } ] }, { "message_id": "<3e1fa2e90807141238l525fbc1eia096d1487964b81@mail.gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "Paul B", "address": "pb.stuff at gmail.com" }, "date": "2008-07-14T19:38:15+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Summa Contra Hieros", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "You persist in making unwarranted assumptions.\nTzadkiel says, and I doubt you'll claim he's lying in this case, that he\nmade a probabilistic guess about Severian, which did indeed turn out right.\nErgo, even a Hierogrammate's foresight is not perfect.\nIf you intend on making unusual claims about various properties of the\nHierogrammates, be it angel-hood or omniscience, please substantiate them\nwith some references.\n\nPaul" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 2:36 PM, b sharp wrote:\n\nDan'l Danehy-Oakes posts:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "When you come right down to it.\nIsn't what the Hiero-Foos are doing,\nthe same thing Mr. Million/Maitre/Number 5 do,\nonly on a cosmic scale?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Rather than warping their own children to ensure their own repetition\nthey are warping entire cosmic cycles to do so." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "If what the Line of Millions do in \"Cerberus\" is wrong,\nthen what the Hiero-Foos do is insanely wrong." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Hah! DDO, you'll get no argument from me. Personally I tend to value\nthe results of natural selection over carefully planned and engineered\nproducts.\n\nBut forced as I am to play Angel's Advocate I must say no, the Hiero-foos\nare superhuman and know just what the results of their tampering will be.\nMr.\nMillion was human (originally) and (obviously) did not know what the\nresults\nof his experiments would be. Gosh, his offspring are so much meaner than\nhe\nis. I guess nurture matters after all ;-).\n\n\n_________________________________________________________________\nThe i'm Talkaton. Can 30-days of conversation change the world?\nhttp://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_ChangeWorld\n_______________________________________________" } ] } ] }