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Kiesche III \"Ah Mr. Gibbon, another damned, fat, square book. Always, scribble, scribble, scribble, eh?\" (The Duke of Gloucester, on being presented with Volume 2 of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.) Blogging at TexasBestGrok!\n\n\n " } ] }, { "message_id": "<3f3f88ad0808071826v2a21dcb0kec99580e361b30ba@mail.gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "Blake Hyde", "address": "syrion at gmail.com" }, "date": "2008-08-08T01:26:01+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Defending Wolfe", "in_reply_to": "<113801.44879.qm@web63904.mail.re1.yahoo.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "He's a troll. Ignore him." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 1:42 AM, Fred Kiesche wrote:\nGreetings:\n\nA person commenting about a post on SF Signal has said (putting it nicer\nthan he eventually does) that Wolfe is a bad writer. I've posted some\ncomments, SF author John Wright has posted a comment...anybody from the list\nwant to join in and express an opinion?\n\nSee:\n\n\n\nF.P. Kiesche III\n\"Ah Mr. Gibbon, another damned, fat, square book. Always, scribble,\nscribble, scribble, eh?\" (The Duke of Gloucester, on being presented with\nVolume 2 of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.) Blogging at\nTexasBestGrok!\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<64CAE65F-B93E-46F8-9A9F-894E77EC7FCD@gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "Lane Haygood", "address": "lhaygood at gmail.com" }, "date": "2008-08-08T01:59:39+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Defending Wolfe", "in_reply_to": "<3f3f88ad0808071826v2a21dcb0kec99580e361b30ba@mail.gmail.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Some people don't like to think and read. I may not understand their \nalternative lifestyles, but it's not for me to judge.\n\nSent from my iPhone" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Aug 7, 2008, at 8:26 PM, \"Blake Hyde\" wrote:\nHe's a troll. Ignore him.\n\nOn Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 1:42 AM, Fred Kiesche \n wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Greetings:\n\nA person commenting about a post on SF Signal has said (putting it \nnicer\nthan he eventually does) that Wolfe is a bad writer. I've posted some\ncomments, SF author John Wright has posted a comment...anybody from \nthe list\nwant to join in and express an opinion?\n\nSee:\n\n\n\nF.P. Kiesche III\n\"Ah Mr. Gibbon, another damned, fat, square book. Always, scribble,\nscribble, scribble, eh?\" (The Duke of Gloucester, on being \npresented with\nVolume 2 of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.) Blogging at\nTexasBestGrok!\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "aaron", "address": "aaronsingleton at gmail.com" }, "date": "2008-08-08T02:36:04+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Defending Wolfe", "in_reply_to": "<64CAE65F-B93E-46F8-9A9F-894E77EC7FCD@gmail.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Let this guy have his Terry Goodkind and John Ringo. Those of us who who\nread higher than a sixth grade level will keep Wolfe for ourselves. ;)" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Lane Haygood wrote:\nSome people don't like to think and read. I may not understand their\nalternative lifestyles, but it's not for me to judge.\n\nSent from my iPhone\n\n\nOn Aug 7, 2008, at 8:26 PM, \"Blake Hyde\" wrote:\n\n He's a troll. Ignore him." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 1:42 AM, Fred Kiesche \nwrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Greetings:\n\nA person commenting about a post on SF Signal has said (putting it nicer\nthan he eventually does) that Wolfe is a bad writer. I've posted some\ncomments, SF author John Wright has posted a comment...anybody from the\nlist\nwant to join in and express an opinion?\n\nSee:\n\n\n\nF.P. Kiesche III\n\"Ah Mr. Gibbon, another damned, fat, square book. Always, scribble,\nscribble, scribble, eh?\" (The Duke of Gloucester, on being presented with\nVolume 2 of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.) Blogging at\nTexasBestGrok!\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<915903.7282.qm@web63906.mail.re1.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "Fred Kiesche", "address": "recursive_loop at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2008-08-08T02:40:12+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Defending Wolfe", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Well, I don't know about Terry Goodkind, but I have about a half shelf full of John Ringo!\n\nF.P. Kiesche III \"Ah Mr. Gibbon, another damned, fat, square book. Always, scribble, scribble, scribble, eh?\" (The Duke of Gloucester, on being presented with Volume 2 of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.) Blogging at TexasBestGrok!\n\n--- On Thu, 8/7/08, aaron wrote:\nFrom: aaron \nSubject: Re: (urth) Defending Wolfe\nTo: \"The Urth Mailing List\" \nDate: Thursday, August 7, 2008, 10:36 PM\n\nLet this guy have his Terry Goodkind and John Ringo. Those of us who who read higher than a sixth grade level will keep Wolfe for ourselves. ;)\n\nOn Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Lane Haygood wrote:\n\nSome people don't like to think and read. I may not understand their alternative lifestyles, but it's not for me to judge.\n\n\n\n\nSent from my iPhone\n\n\n\nOn Aug 7, 2008, at 8:26 PM, \"Blake Hyde\" wrote:\n\n\n\n\nHe's a troll. ?Ignore him.\n\n\n\nOn Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 1:42 AM, Fred Kiesche wrote:\n\n\nGreetings:\n\n\n\nA person commenting about a post on SF Signal has said (putting it nicer\n\nthan he eventually does) that Wolfe is a bad writer. I've posted some\n\ncomments, SF author John Wright has posted a comment...anybody from the list\n\nwant to join in and express an opinion?\n\n\n\nSee:\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nF.P. Kiesche III\n\n\"Ah Mr. Gibbon, another damned, fat, square book. Always, scribble,\n\nscribble, scribble, eh?\" (The Duke of Gloucester, on being presented with\n\nVolume 2 of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.) Blogging at\n\nTexasBestGrok!\n\n\n\n\nUrth Mailing List\n\nTo post, write urth at urth.net\n\nSubscription/information: http://www.urth.net\n\n\n\n\n\nUrth Mailing List\n\nTo post, write urth at urth.net\n\nSubscription/information: http://www.urth.net\n\n\n\nUrth Mailing List\n\nTo post, write urth at urth.net\n\nSubscription/information: http://www.urth.net" } ] }, { "message_id": "<749F5B4E-57C6-4788-B3C4-0DAE2245CB69@gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "Lane Haygood", "address": "lhaygood at gmail.com" }, "date": "2008-08-08T02:42:33+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Defending Wolfe", "in_reply_to": "<915903.7282.qm@web63906.mail.re1.yahoo.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Terry Goodkind is what happens when worse writers than Ayn Rand (and \nthat's saying something) attempt to explain that hackneyed bit of \nnonsense called Objectivism.\n\nLane" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Aug 7, 2008, at 9:40 PM, Fred Kiesche wrote:\nWell, I don't know about Terry Goodkind, but I have about a half \nshelf full of John Ringo!\n\nF.P. Kiesche III\n\"Ah Mr. Gibbon, another damned, fat, square book. Always, scribble, \nscribble, scribble, eh?\" (The Duke of Gloucester, on being presented \nwith Volume 2 of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.) Blogging \nat TexasBestGrok!\n\n\n--- On Thu, 8/7/08, aaron wrote:\nFrom: aaron \nSubject: Re: (urth) Defending Wolfe\nTo: \"The Urth Mailing List\" \nDate: Thursday, August 7, 2008, 10:36 PM\n\nLet this guy have his Terry Goodkind and John Ringo. Those of us \nwho who read higher than a sixth grade level will keep Wolfe for \nourselves. ;)\n\nOn Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Lane Haygood \nwrote:\nSome people don't like to think and read. I may not understand their \nalternative lifestyles, but it's not for me to judge.\n\nSent from my iPhone\n\n\nOn Aug 7, 2008, at 8:26 PM, \"Blake Hyde\" wrote:\n\nHe's a troll. Ignore him.\n\nOn Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 1:42 AM, Fred Kiesche \n wrote:\nGreetings:\n\nA person commenting about a post on SF Signal has said (putting it \nnicer\nthan he eventually does) that Wolfe is a bad writer. I've posted some\ncomments, SF author John Wright has posted a comment...anybody from \nthe list\nwant to join in and express an opinion?\n\nSee:\n\n\n\nF.P. Kiesche III\n\"Ah Mr. Gibbon, another damned, fat, square book. Always, scribble,\nscribble, scribble, eh?\" (The Duke of Gloucester, on being presented \nwith\nVolume 2 of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.) Blogging at\nTexasBestGrok!\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] } ] }