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  "thread": {
    "id": 5138,
    "subject": "Peace, and colors, and murder, and games",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "2008-08-28T02:29:51+00:00",
    "last": "2008-08-28T04:59:29+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<B311AD59-D351-43F5-91AC-66D671F0F1CE@io.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Adam Thornton",
        "address": "adam at io.com"
      },
      "date": "2008-08-28T02:29:51+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Peace, and colors, and murder, and games",
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          "text": "So I'm re-reading Robert Borski on _Peace_, and it's quite clever.\n\nBut something else occurs to me.\n\nThe characters have, indeed, obvious color associations.  And, well,  \nthere are clearly some murders in _Peace_.\n\nAnd that got me thinking about Mrs. Peacock, and Mr. Green, and Mrs.  \nWhite, and Professor Plum, and a nefarious House littered about with  \nimplements of murder.\n\nI wonder if, just as there's a reading of _Through The Looking Glass  \nand what Alice Found There_ as a chess game, there's a reading of  \n_Peace_ as a game of _Clue_ (_Cluedo_ to you Brits).  Has anyone  \nalready traversed this particular path?\n\nAdam"
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      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<48B630B1.9060604@gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Dave Tallman",
        "address": "davetallman at msn.com"
      },
      "date": "2008-08-28T04:59:29+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Peace, and colors, and murder, and games",
      "in_reply_to": "<B311AD59-D351-43F5-91AC-66D671F0F1CE@io.com>",
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          "text": "I posted on this a few months ago, in April:"
        },
        {
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "By the way, did the name \"Professor Peacock\" and the other color names make anyone think of the game of \"Clue?\""
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "And later Helen Algmin wrote, and I replied:"
        },
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          "depth": 2,
          "text": "/ PS — Yes, the color names make me think of Clue.  And for good reason.  In Clue,\n/> >/ the names are supposed to be pseudonyms to keep the players anonymous.  I think\n/> >/ Weer also uses pseudonyms."
        },
        {
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          "text": "/"
        },
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "I think that idea was only introduced in the Clue movie, but you have a good idea\nabout pseudonyms. For example, the name \"Julius Smart\" seems too descriptive of the man\nto be real."
        },
        {
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          "text": "My last comment on the \"Clue\" connection:"
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          "text": "To press on the analogy, Clue players must visit specific rooms in a mansion\nin order to invoke memories to confirm or contradict their theories. They cannot access\nthe central room where the truth is hidden.\n\nLikewise, Weer says he lives on the periphery of his house and that he never goes into\nhis den (Den, himself) p. 10. A similar point is made by the waiting-room music,\n\"A Life for the Czar\" by Glinka (p. 3). In this opera, a Russian peasant is forced\nby an invading army to lead them to the secret hiding place of the Czar. Pretending to\ncomply, he leads them on a wild-goose-chase through swamps and thickets until they\nare completely demoralized. It fits my experience trying to follow Weer in this\nnovel."
        },
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          "depth": 0,
          "text": "We do know one murder in full Clue-style: Professor Peacock killed Mrs. Smart in the village with a car."
        }
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