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  "thread": {
    "id": 5144,
    "subject": "WolfeWiki latest",
    "messages": 5,
    "voices": 4,
    "first": "2008-09-12T14:52:50+00:00",
    "last": "2009-04-09T02:34:02+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<20080912145249.905B048046@diego.dreamhost.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Mo Holkar / UKG",
        "address": "lists at ukg.co.uk"
      },
      "date": "2008-09-12T14:52:50+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) WolfeWiki latest",
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          "text": "Hi all,\n\nJust a quick warning note to say that I'm in the process of moving \nthe Wolfe wiki to a new home, which will be at:\n\nhttp://www.wolfewiki.com/pmwiki/\n\n(Yes, I know. But I was offered it for free, so why not...)\n\nFor the moment I've locked both this new copy of the wiki and the \nexisting copy (on www.holkar.net) to edits, while I do the migration \nand make sure everything's working properly at the new site.\n\nIf you try and do something on the wiki and it doesn't work, or \ndoesn't exist any more, that's probably why, but drop me a note if \nyou see anything too peculiar.\n\nbest wishes, and thanks for your patience,\n\nMo\n\n\n\n# ~ # ~ #\n\nWolfeWiki\nhttp://www.holkar.net/pmwiki/ "
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<1f7617370809121040h2c963e8dj8e30ae951296b349@mail.gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes",
        "address": "danldo at gmail.com"
      },
      "date": "2008-09-12T17:40:59+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) WolfeWiki latest",
      "in_reply_to": "<20080912145249.905B048046@diego.dreamhost.com>",
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          "text": "As you may or may not have noticed, I've recently become active on the wiki\nagain. Please let me know when the new location is open for editing."
        },
        {
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          "text": "On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Mo Holkar / UKG <lists at ukg.co.uk> wrote:\nHi all,\n\nJust a quick warning note to say that I'm in the process of moving the\nWolfe wiki to a new home, which will be at:\n\nhttp://www.wolfewiki.com/pmwiki/\n\n(Yes, I know. But I was offered it for free, so why not...)\n\nFor the moment I've locked both this new copy of the wiki and the existing\ncopy (on www.holkar.net) to edits, while I do the migration and make sure\neverything's working properly at the new site.\n\nIf you try and do something on the wiki and it doesn't work, or doesn't\nexist any more, that's probably why, but drop me a note if you see anything\ntoo peculiar.\n\nbest wishes, and thanks for your patience,\n\nMo\n\n\n\n# ~ # ~ #\n\nWolfeWiki\nhttp://www.holkar.net/pmwiki/\n_______________________________________________"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<20080914135915.4003E4804C@diego.dreamhost.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Mo Holkar / UKG",
        "address": "lists at ukg.co.uk"
      },
      "date": "2008-09-14T13:59:19+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) WolfeWiki latest",
      "in_reply_to": "<1f7617370809121040h2c963e8dj8e30ae951296b349@mail.gmail.com>",
      "reply_link": "header",
      "blocks": [
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "At 18:40 12/09/2008, Dan'l wrote:\nAs you may or may not have noticed, I've recently become active on \nthe wiki again. Please let me know when the new location is open for editing."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Yes, good to see you reactivated! It's still a way short of critical \nmass of content, but Dave in particular has been doing great work \ngoing through the short stories.\n\nI think the new location should be working OK now, so please do head \nthere and check it out. If you have any problems editing, or with any \nother function, please let me know (by direct email, rather than to \nthis list) and I'll get it fixed. Usernames and passwords should all \nwork exactly as in the old site.\n\nbest wishes,\n\nMo\n\n\n# ~ # ~ #\n\nWolfeWiki now at:\nhttp://www.wolfewiki.com/pmwiki/ "
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<49DD3C7A.2080508@hyraxes.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Dave Lebling",
        "address": "dlebling at hyraxes.com"
      },
      "date": "2009-04-09T00:08:26+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Ultan's Library & Borges",
      "in_reply_to": "<20080912145249.905B048046@diego.dreamhost.com>",
      "reply_link": "header",
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          "text": "I thought it was generally agreed that though Severian may be a stand-in \nfor Wolfe, Ultan's assistant Cyby was Wolfe's stand-in in the novel:\n\n\"... a stocky, very erect man of forty or so with a flat, pale face. ... \nCyby had a high, square forehead, from which his graying hair was in \nretreat. It made his face seem small and a trifle babyish...\"\n\nRemember that Shadow of the Torturer was published in 1980, so it was \nwritten when Wolfe was \"forty or so.\"\n\n-- Dave Lebling, aka vizcacha"
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      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<49DD5E9A.6080508@io.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Jeff Wilson",
        "address": "jwilson at io.com"
      },
      "date": "2009-04-09T02:34:02+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Ultan's Library & Borges",
      "in_reply_to": "<49DD3C7A.2080508@hyraxes.com>",
      "reply_link": "header",
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          "text": "Dave Lebling wrote:\nI thought it was generally agreed that though Severian may be a stand-in \nfor Wolfe, Ultan's assistant Cyby was Wolfe's stand-in in the novel:\n\n\"... a stocky, very erect man of forty or so with a flat, pale face. ... \nCyby had a high, square forehead, from which his graying hair was in \nretreat. It made his face seem small and a trifle babyish...\"\n\nRemember that Shadow of the Torturer was published in 1980, so it was \nwritten when Wolfe was \"forty or so.\""
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          "text": "I've seen photos of Wolfe from that time and there was nothing flat or \nsquare about him - in fact in one he sorta looks like Stimpy."
        },
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          "text": "Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com\n< http://www.io.com/~jwilson >"
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