{ "export": { "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/5150", "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 5150, "subject": "Greenhouse", "messages": 5, "voices": 3, "first": "2008-09-18T16:47:50+00:00", "last": "2008-09-19T18:09:36+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "<000f01c919ae$49dacdd0$dd906970$@com>", "from": { "name": "Brian Lovely", "address": "brian at studiobl.com" }, "date": "2008-09-18T16:47:50+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Greenhouse", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I don't have the books in front of me, so forgive me if I make a massive\nblunder. Anyway, I've always wondered about the ruin that Horn and Seawrack\nfind on an island (blunder query: IS it an island?) It's an area marked off\nby a ruined circular wall of glass. The glass intensifies light in one\ndirection. There are some kind of large or unusual trees or bushes in the\narea (I think I'm remembering this correctly. \n\n \n\nWhat the heck is this? It sounds like a greenhouse to me. Somewhere where\nthe Green Man's race was made? Something to do with the treelike Neighbors?\n\n \n\n--Brian\n\n \n\n \n\n " } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Pedro Pereira", "address": "domus_artemis at hotmail.com" }, "date": "2008-09-18T16:52:05+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Greenhouse", "in_reply_to": "<000f01c919ae$49dacdd0$dd906970$@com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I think it was what was suggested in the books: one of the last spots of the Neighbors before they departed. I don't remember anything unusual about the trees.\n \nBy the way, why \"treelike\" Neighbors? As for the Green Man's race, I guess you are assuming that Blue/Green is Urth's system in the future and that is where the green man originated?\n \nPedro\n\n\n\nFrom: brian at studiobl.comTo: urth at lists.urth.netDate: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:47:50 -0400Subject: (urth) Greenhouse\n\n\n\n\nI don’t have the books in front of me, so forgive me if I make a massive blunder. Anyway, I’ve always wondered about the ruin that Horn and Seawrack find on an island (blunder query: IS it an island?) It’s an area marked off by a ruined circular wall of glass. The glass intensifies light in one direction. There are some kind of large or unusual trees or bushes in the area (I think I’m remembering this correctly. \n \nWhat the heck is this? It sounds like a greenhouse to me. Somewhere where the Green Man’s race was made? Something to do with the treelike Neighbors?\n \n--Brian\n \n \n " } ] }, { "message_id": "<48D371B6.4080103@io.com>", "from": { "name": "Jeff Wilson", "address": "jwilson at io.com" }, "date": "2008-09-19T09:32:38+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Greenhouse", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Pedro Pereira wrote:\nI think it was what was suggested in the books: one of the last spots of \nthe Neighbors before they departed. I don't remember anything unusual \nabout the trees.\n \nBy the way, why \"treelike\" Neighbors? As for the Green Man's race, I \nguess you are assuming that Blue/Green is Urth's system in the future \nand that is where the green man originated?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Yes! More weight for the PLANET OF THE APES scenario." }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com\n< http://www.io.com/~jwilson >" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Pedro Pereira", "address": "domus_artemis at hotmail.com" }, "date": "2008-09-19T13:43:20+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Greenhouse", "in_reply_to": "<48D371B6.4080103@io.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Huh, I think my opinion in this case leaves a lot to be desired...and now that some people gave me some info (that I had read years ago in the this list but forgotten since) I think I need to get back to the books again. \n \nAnyway, I don't think Blue/Green is Urth/Lune or any combination thereof, so no PLANET OF THE APES scenario for me. But I do keep an open mind...;)\n \nI guess I need Andre-Diussi to write \"LEXICON, THE LONG AND SHORT OF IT\" (tip tip)...\n " } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Pedro Pereira", "address": "domus_artemis at hotmail.com" }, "date": "2008-09-19T18:09:36+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Greenhouse", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "By the way, I was doing some bathroom reading of LEXICON URTHUS and under the entry Typhon Andre says that some of Typhon's rebelious family members possibly turned into Other Lords and so he came to be also known as \"the Father of Monsters\". This seems to give some substance to my previous assumption that Great Scylla could have been Cilicia (or whatever her name was) \"transformed\" into one of the monstrous Lords. Although that doesn't seem to be the case with Cilicia herself (because of Short Sun) it shows that my idea that some of the Lords had been humans before maybe was not all that wrong after all. The problem remains that I don't remember where I got that idea from. I would have to re-read the Book of the New Sun as I'm sure it was there or on Urth of the New Sun.\n \nPedro\n\n\n\nFrom: domus_artemis at hotmail.comTo: urth at lists.urth.netDate: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:43:20 +0300Subject: Re: (urth) Greenhouse" } ] } ] }