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    "id": 5163,
    "subject": "food in evil guest very minor spoiler",
    "messages": 10,
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    "first": "2008-10-02T05:53:40+00:00",
    "last": "2008-10-15T15:24:31+00:00"
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      "message_id": "<4825.76902.qm@web58203.mail.re3.yahoo.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Marc Aramini",
        "address": "marcaramini at yahoo.com"
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      "date": "2008-10-02T05:53:40+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) food in evil guest very minor spoiler",
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          "text": "talk of the description of food in evil guest prompted one interesting thing - at the end cassie says a certain food reminds her of when she was the green goddess and on page 119 Reis says &quot;I felt sure you would order the green goddess.&quot;\n\nWhat is that? a salad?  Also, the old ambassador&#39;s weight as well as Cassie&#39;s seems to have been seriously reduced at the end.\n\nAnd could Deanna Diamond be the changed pimply Donny Dukes from page 65?\n\n\n      "
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      "message_id": "<8476d0320810012302sc466c8fx9e8d463fb8382ebd@mail.gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Bruce Hayles",
        "address": "brucehayles at gmail.com"
      },
      "date": "2008-10-02T06:02:54+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) food in evil guest very minor spoiler",
      "in_reply_to": "<4825.76902.qm@web58203.mail.re3.yahoo.com>",
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          "text": "It's a salad dressing.\nReis looked up. \"I felt sure you'd order the green goddess.\"\n\"I like ranch.\"\n\"...Waitress, I want you to bring both dressings. A cup of each...\"\n\nCassie weight is severely reduced because she was on an island for months\nwith barely enough to eat. Or are you referring to something else?"
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          "text": "On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 1:53 AM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com> wrote:\ntalk of the description of food in evil guest prompted one interesting\nthing - at the end cassie says a certain food reminds her of when she was\nthe green goddess and on page 119 Reis says \"I felt sure you would order the\ngreen goddess.\"\n\nWhat is that? a salad?  Also, the old ambassador's weight as well as\nCassie's seems to have been seriously reduced at the end.\n\nAnd could Deanna Diamond be the changed pimply Donny Dukes from page 65?\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________"
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    {
      "message_id": "<48E46435.3030300@doubtfulpalace.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Tim Walters",
        "address": "walters at doubtfulpalace.com"
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      "date": "2008-10-02T06:03:33+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) food in evil guest very minor spoiler",
      "in_reply_to": "<4825.76902.qm@web58203.mail.re3.yahoo.com>",
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          "text": "Marc Aramini wrote:\non page 119 Reis says &quot;I felt sure you would order the green goddess.&quot;\n\nWhat is that? a salad?"
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          "text": "Not a salad, but a salad dressing:\n\nhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_goddess_dressing\n\nTasty, too."
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          "text": "Tim Walters | The Doubtful Palace | http://doubtfulpalace.com"
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      "message_id": "<48E7BC27.1040902@colby.edu>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Fernando Q. Gouvêa",
        "address": "fqgouvea at colby.edu"
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      "date": "2008-10-04T18:55:35+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) food in evil guest very minor spoiler",
      "in_reply_to": "<4825.76902.qm@web58203.mail.re3.yahoo.com>",
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          "text": "Specifically, there are many names of salad dressings mentioned in the \nbook, including at least Green Goddess, Russian, Thousand Island...\n\nI think Wolfe was just having fun.\n\nFernando"
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          "text": "=============================================================\nFernando Q. Gouvea\nCarter Professor of Mathematics\nColby College                     Editor, MAA FOCUS\n5836 Mayflower Hill               Editor, MAA Reviews\nWaterville, ME 04901              http://mathdl.maa.org/mathDL/19/\nhttp://www.colby.edu/~fqgouvea\n\nQ: How did you get into artificial intelligence?\nA: Seemed logical -- I didn't have any real intelligence."
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    {
      "message_id": "<44fb53d10810041441m3c411318o1e6955f48734ac4b@mail.gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Matthew Keeley",
        "address": "matthew.keeley.1 at gmail.com"
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      "date": "2008-10-04T21:41:32+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) food in evil guest very minor spoiler",
      "in_reply_to": "<48E7BC27.1040902@colby.edu>",
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          "text": "On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 2:55 PM, \"Fernando Q. Gouv?a\" <fqgouvea at colby.edu>wrote:\nSpecifically, there are many names of salad dressings mentioned in the\nbook, including at least Green Goddess, Russian, Thousand Island...\n\nI think Wolfe was just having fun.\n\nFernando"
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          "text": "As much as I like Wolfe, I will never understand his sense of humor. Perhaps\nit's a joke on US? Apparently he doesn't read the Urth list, but surely he\nknows how we go after the strangest and smallest things when we read his\nbooks. What kind of dressing goes well with red herrings?\n\n-Matt"
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      "message_id": "<10290.67.142.130.18.1223157420.squirrel@brunians.org>",
      "from": {
        "name": "brunians at brunians.org",
        "address": "brunians at brunians.org"
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      "date": "2008-10-04T21:57:00+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) food in evil guest very minor spoiler",
      "in_reply_to": "<44fb53d10810041441m3c411318o1e6955f48734ac4b@mail.gmail.com>",
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          "text": "Matt writes:"
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          "text": "As much as I like Wolfe, I will never understand his sense of humor.\nPerhaps it's a joke on US?"
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          "text": "Could be, masked man."
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          "text": "                         Apparently he doesn't read the Urth list,"
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          "depth": 0,
          "text": "He's aware of it, and of what goes on here, and has opinions about it."
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          "text": "                                                                     but\nsurely he knows how we go after the strangest and smallest things when we\nread his books."
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          "text": "Indeed he does."
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          "text": "                 What kind of dressing goes well with red herrings?"
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          "text": "I'd say some kind of a lemon/basil vinagrette, perhaps with a touch of\nfennel and cucumber seed.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n."
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          "text": "_______________________________________________"
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      "message_id": "<29EA8ED8-B6C6-4D20-895C-296F18AE1127@io.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Adam Thornton",
        "address": "adam at io.com"
      },
      "date": "2008-10-05T22:17:58+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) food in evil guest very minor spoiler",
      "in_reply_to": "<10290.67.142.130.18.1223157420.squirrel@brunians.org>",
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          "text": "On Oct 4, 2008, at 4:57 PM, brunians at brunians.org wrote:\n\n                What kind of dressing goes well with red herrings?"
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        {
          "kind": "quote",
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          "text": "I'd say some kind of a lemon/basil vinagrette, perhaps with a touch of\nfennel and cucumber seed."
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          "text": "I'd say they were an essential ingredient in a Render Unto Caesar  \nsalad dressing, myself.  They give it its characteristic gold color.\n\nAdam"
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        "name": "brunians at brunians.org",
        "address": "brunians at brunians.org"
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      "date": "2008-10-05T22:27:10+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) food in evil guest very minor spoiler",
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          "text": "Adam writes:"
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          "text": "On Oct 4, 2008, at 4:57 PM, brunians at brunians.org wrote:"
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          "text": "Someone else writes:"
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          "text": "                What kind of dressing goes well with red herrings?"
        },
        {
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          "text": "I'd say some kind of a lemon/basil vinagrette, perhaps with a touch of\nfennel and cucumber seed."
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          "text": "I'd say they were an essential ingredient in a Render Unto Caesar\nsalad dressing, myself.  They give it its characteristic gold color."
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          "text": "Don't forget the soupcon of Romano (*not* Parmesan) on top of the Render\nUnto Caesar salad.\n\n\n\n."
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    {
      "message_id": "<204821.19423.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Stuart Hamm",
        "address": "hammstu at sbcglobal.net"
      },
      "date": "2008-10-06T16:26:10+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) food in evil guest very minor spoiler",
      "in_reply_to": "<44fb53d10810041441m3c411318o1e6955f48734ac4b@mail.gmail.com>",
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          "text": "GW is an engineer don't forget..\n\nI read an interview somewhere (?) where he said that he wrote one story (The Woman the Centaur Loved??) as kind of a challenge a friend had given him to see if he could blend 3 very different given elements into a story...maybe food was a chosen element to insert in AEG as he mapped it out ....\n\n???? Mobile — (415) 786-3624\n???? Skype? stuart.hamm\nmyspace.com/stuhamm\n? ??? stuarthamm.net\n\n\n--- On Sat, 10/4/08, Matthew Keeley <matthew.keeley.1 at gmail.com> wrote:\nFrom: Matthew Keeley <matthew.keeley.1 at gmail.com>\nSubject: Re: (urth) food in evil guest very minor spoiler\nTo: \"The Urth Mailing List\" <urth at lists.urth.net>\nDate: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 2:41 PM\n\nOn Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 2:55 PM, \"Fernando Q. Gouv?a\" <fqgouvea at colby.edu> wrote:\n\nSpecifically, there are many names of salad dressings mentioned in the book, including at least Green Goddess, Russian, Thousand Island...\n\n\n\nI think Wolfe was just having fun.\n\n\n\nFernando\n\nAs much as I like Wolfe, I will never understand his sense of humor. Perhaps it's a joke on US? Apparently he doesn't read the Urth list, but surely he knows how we go after the strangest and smallest things when we read his books. What kind of dressing goes well with red herrings?\n\n-Matt"
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      "message_id": "<1bf4dd40810150824n10dc20bax574e6683587ec503@mail.gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Dave Tallman",
        "address": "davetallman at msn.com"
      },
      "date": "2008-10-15T15:24:31+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) food in evil guest very minor spoiler",
      "in_reply_to": "<204821.19423.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>",
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          "text": "Marc Aramini wrote:\nAnd could Deanna Diamond be the changed pimply Donny Dukes from page 65?"
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          "text": "That's very reasonable, given the same-initial clues we have elsewhere. Also:\n\n1) \"In real life Donny Duke was small and swishy...\" p. 53. The\nassassin is a \"little bit of a thing.\" p. 256.\n2) He drinks something green which is thick like toothpaste,\nappropriate for a Cthulhu cultist. p. 63,64.\n3) He can \"dance the paper off the wall, but he's not male\" p. 136.\n6) He played Seurat, who murdered Cassie's character Mildred Norcott\nin Act Two of \"The Red Spot\" p. 63. Wolfe often has pretense become\nreality."
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