# Nessus, House Absolute, etc.

*The Urth list — 4 messages, 4 voices, 01 Dec 2008*

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### David Stockhoff
*01 Dec 2008, 20:09*

To all:

I have to step back from my statement that Buenos Aires is not on the 
Rio de la Plate. It IS in fact on the estuary of that river---an estuary 
that is so wide at that point that it may as well be a sea. So yes, 
Nessus was originally probably a native settlement by the sea/where 
Gyoll meets the sea, and Buenos Aires has already moved north from where 
it was "founded" by Spaniards. However, the Wiki doesn't mention any 
previous settlement at all:

Seaman Juan D?az de Sol’s 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_D%C3%ADaz_de_Sol%C3%ADs>, navigating 
in the name of Spain <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain>, was the first 
European to reach the R?o de la Plata 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%ADo_de_la_Plata> in 1516. His 
expedition was cut short when he was killed, supposedly during an attack 
by the native Charr?a <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charr%C3%BAa> tribe 
in what is now Uruguay <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguay>.

The city of Buenos Aires was first established as /Ciudad de Nuestra 
Se?ora Santa Mar a del Buen Ayre/^[7] 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buenos_Aires#cite_note-Short_history-6> 
(literally "City of Our Lady Saint Mary of the Fair Winds") on February 
2, 1536 by a Spanish expedition led by Pedro de Mendoza 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_de_Mendoza>. The city founded by 
Mendoza was located in what is today the San Telmo 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Telmo> district of Buenos Aires, south 
of the city centre.

More attacks by the indigenous peoples forced the settlers away, and in 
1541 the site was abandoned. A second (and permanent) settlement was 
established in 1580 by Juan de Garay 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_de_Garay>, who arrived by sailing 
down the Paran? River <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paran%C3%A1_River> 
from Asunci?n <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asunci%C3%B3n> (now the 
capital of Paraguay <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraguay>). Although 
upon the refounding, the city itself was named Holy Trinity 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_Buenos_Aires> (Spanish 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_language>: /Santisima Trinidad/) 
and only the port was still called Buenos Aires, over the next two 
centuries the port's name won out.


So, whatever. Does anyone know of any origins/meanings for the name 
"Nessus"?

Son of Witz---Where did you get the textfiles of TBotNS?

Also, my guess as to the futurity of Urth is no more than 100,000 years. 
My 2 cents.

Dave

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### Son of Witz
*01 Dec 2008, 20:20 · follows David Stockhoff*

> Son of Witz---Where did you get the textfiles of TBotNS?
> 
> Also, my guess as to the futurity of Urth is no more than 100,000 years. 
> My 2 cents.
> 
> Dave

I'm with you on max 100,000.

I got the text files from a torrent.  google "Wolfe sun series torrent"  (sans quotes) and you should find a torrent.  an audiobooks from Fenopy torrent will turn up too, which are what I founds (many mp3s)

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### Lane Haygood
*01 Dec 2008, 20:34 · in reply to David Stockhoff*

Nessus, if I remember correctly, is the centaur that trains Achilles.

Lane

> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:09 PM, David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net>wrote:
> To all:
> 
> I have to step back from my statement that Buenos Aires is not on the Rio
> de la Plate. It IS in fact on the estuary of that river---an estuary that is
> so wide at that point that it may as well be a sea. So yes, Nessus was
> originally probably a native settlement by the sea/where Gyoll meets the
> sea, and Buenos Aires has already moved north from where it was "founded" by
> Spaniards. However, the Wiki doesn't mention any previous settlement at all:
> 
> Seaman Juan D?az de Sol?s<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_D%C3%ADaz_de_Sol%C3%ADs>,
> navigating in the name of Spain <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain>, was
> the first European to reach the R?o de la Plata<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%ADo_de_la_Plata>in 1516. His expedition was cut short when he was killed, supposedly during
> an attack by the native Charr?a<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charr%C3%BAa>tribe in what is now
> Uruguay <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguay>.
> 
> The city of Buenos Aires was first established as *Ciudad de Nuestra
> Se?ora Santa Mar a del Buen Ayre*[7]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buenos_Aires#cite_note-Short_history-6>(literally "City of Our Lady Saint Mary of the Fair Winds") on February 2,
> 1536 by a Spanish expedition led by Pedro de Mendoza<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_de_Mendoza>.
> The city founded by Mendoza was located in what is today the San Telmo<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Telmo>district of Buenos Aires, south of the city centre.
> 
> More attacks by the indigenous peoples forced the settlers away, and in
> 1541 the site was abandoned. A second (and permanent) settlement was
> established in 1580 by Juan de Garay<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_de_Garay>,
> who arrived by sailing down the Paran? River<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paran%C3%A1_River>from
> Asunci?n <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asunci%C3%B3n> (now the capital of
> Paraguay <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraguay>). Although upon the
> refounding, the city itself was named Holy Trinity<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_Buenos_Aires>(
> Spanish <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_language>: *Santisima
> Trinidad*) and only the port was still called Buenos Aires, over the next
> two centuries the port's name won out.
> 
> 
> So, whatever. Does anyone know of any origins/meanings for the name
> "Nessus"?
> Son of Witz---Where did you get the textfiles of TBotNS?
> 
> Also, my guess as to the futurity of Urth is no more than 100,000 years. My
> 2 cents.
> 
> Dave
> 
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### brunians at brunians.org
*01 Dec 2008, 21:14 · in reply to Lane Haygood*

That is Cheiron. Nessus is the one who instructs Heracles wife to skin him
and make a shirt from the skin, which poisons/burns Heracles' skin when he
puts it on, precipitating Heracles suicide/apotheosis.



.

> Nessus, if I remember correctly, is the centaur that trains Achilles.
> 
> Lane
> 
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:09 PM, David Stockhoff
> <dstockhoff at verizon.net>wrote:

>> To all:
>> 
>> I have to step back from my statement that Buenos Aires is not on the
>> Rio
>> de la Plate. It IS in fact on the estuary of that river---an estuary
>> that is
>> so wide at that point that it may as well be a sea. So yes, Nessus was
>> originally probably a native settlement by the sea/where Gyoll meets the
>> sea, and Buenos Aires has already moved north from where it was
>> "founded" by
>> Spaniards. However, the Wiki doesn't mention any previous settlement at
>> all:
>> 
>> Seaman Juan D?az de
>> Sol?s<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_D%C3%ADaz_de_Sol%C3%ADs>,
>> navigating in the name of Spain <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain>,
>> was
>> the first European to reach the R?o de la
>> Plata<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%ADo_de_la_Plata>in 1516. His
>> expedition was cut short when he was killed, supposedly during
>> an attack by the native
>> Charr?a<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charr%C3%BAa>tribe in what is now
>> Uruguay <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguay>.
>> 
>> The city of Buenos Aires was first established as *Ciudad de Nuestra
>> Se?ora Santa Mar a del Buen
>> Ayre*[7]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buenos_Aires#cite_note-Short_history-6>(literally
>> "City of Our Lady Saint Mary of the Fair Winds") on February 2,
>> 1536 by a Spanish expedition led by Pedro de
>> Mendoza<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_de_Mendoza>.
>> The city founded by Mendoza was located in what is today the San
>> Telmo<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Telmo>district of Buenos Aires,
>> south of the city centre.
>> 
>> More attacks by the indigenous peoples forced the settlers away, and in
>> 1541 the site was abandoned. A second (and permanent) settlement was
>> established in 1580 by Juan de
>> Garay<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_de_Garay>,
>> who arrived by sailing down the Paran?
>> River<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paran%C3%A1_River>from
>> Asunci?n <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asunci%C3%B3n> (now the capital
>> of
>> Paraguay <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraguay>). Although upon the
>> refounding, the city itself was named Holy
>> Trinity<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_Buenos_Aires>(
>> Spanish <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_language>: *Santisima
>> Trinidad*) and only the port was still called Buenos Aires, over the
>> next
>> two centuries the port's name won out.
>> 
>> 
>> So, whatever. Does anyone know of any origins/meanings for the name
>> "Nessus"?
>> Son of Witz---Where did you get the textfiles of TBotNS?
>> 
>> Also, my guess as to the futurity of Urth is no more than 100,000 years.
>> My
>> 2 cents.
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>>   ------------------------------
>> 
>> avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com/>: Outbound message clean.
>> 
>> Virus Database (VPS): 081130-0, 11/30/2008
>> Tested on: 12/1/2008 3:09:39 PM
>> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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