# Got a spare grand-and-half? *The Urth list — 7 messages, 4 voices, 02 Dec 2008* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Gwern Branwen *02 Dec 2008, 00:04* -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 I don't know if this was mentioned last year, but I just across this: http://millipedepress.com/centipede-press/the-shadow-of-the-torturer-gene-wolfe "The Shadow of the Torturer" "$1500.00 Leather - Printed on mouldmade Saunders Waterford. Bound in full goatskin leather with the color illustrations and a map enclosed in a cloth traycase with an extra set of unbound prints. Limited to 14 copies for sale. ... It features 7 full page, full color illustrations by German artist Alexander Preuss." I would like to read a copy, if only to look at the illustrations - the library scene looks nice. - -- gwern -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEAREKAAYFAkk0e0EACgkQvpDo5Pfl1oKZWgCaA99W+wf27VVeFnCDEOKHaAeq u9AAmwaeRBshEd31+U48B9ua9HkbEMcd =89RE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- ### Son of Witz *02 Dec 2008, 00:12 · follows Gwern Branwen* > ... > It features 7 full page, full color illustrations by German artist > Alexander Preuss." Did Preuss understand what he read? Seems to have missed the boat in a lot of ways. Obviously he's done a lot of hard work and some of this stuff looks great. But I have lots of issues with these not conforming to the text very closely. I have so many complaints here I should just not get started, I suppose. most of the plates. http://www.abalakin.de/special_080216.asp a few more http://www.abalakin.de/gallery.asp --- ### Matthew Keeley *02 Dec 2008, 00:22 · in reply to Son of Witz* > On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Son of Witz wrote: > > Did Preuss understand what he read? Seems to have missed the boat in a lot of ways. Obviously he's done a lot of hard work and some of this stuff looks great. But I have lots of issues with these not conforming to the text very closely. I have so many complaints here I should just not get started, I suppose. Well, I think that at various times we've all missed the New Sun boat in one way or another. I don't think any of the illustrations conform to my view of Urth, though "Leaving Nessus" isn't too bad (though the city is too futuristic by far). I think the biggest failure is the "floating city", which I take it is Preuss' illustration of the Pelerine's "cathedral". Like you said, I could nitpick for hours, but won't. By not showing much of Severian, and never showing him in decent light, Preuss did at least solve the vexed problem of Sev's chest hair... -Matt --- ### Son of Witz *02 Dec 2008, 00:26 · follows Matthew Keeley* > Well, I think that at various times we've all missed the New Sun boat > in one way or another. I don't think any of the illustrations conform > to my view of Urth, though "Leaving Nessus" isn't too bad (though the > city is too futuristic by far). I think the biggest failure is the > "floating city", which I take it is Preuss' illustration of the > Pelerine's "cathedral". > > Like you said, I could nitpick for hours, but won't. > > By not showing much of Severian, and never showing him in decent > light, Preuss did at least solve the vexed problem of Sev's chest > hair... > > -Matt Lol. Well avoided. though he did avoid the fuligin along with it. and yeah, the Floating City is the most "off" thing there I think. I'm just a picky bastard I guess. ~witz --- ### hammstu at sbcglobal.net *02 Dec 2008, 03:51 · follows Son of Witz* I got the non grand and a half version and am pretty pleased...come on over and I'll show you my etchings S of W... ------Original Message------ From: Son of Witz Sender: urth-bounces at lists.urth.net To: The Urth Mailing List ReplyTo: The Urth Mailing List > Sent: Dec 1, 2008 4:12 PM > Subject: Re: (urth) Got a spare grand-and-half? > ... > It features 7 full page, full color illustrations by German artist > Alexander Preuss." Did Preuss understand what he read? Seems to have missed the boat in a lot of ways. Obviously he's done a lot of hard work and some of this stuff looks great. But I have lots of issues with these not conforming to the text very closely. I have so many complaints here I should just not get started, I suppose. most of the plates. http://www.abalakin.de/special_080216.asp a few more http://www.abalakin.de/gallery.asp --- ### Gwern Branwen *03 Dec 2008, 01:06 · in reply to Son of Witz* -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 > On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Son of Witz wrote: >> ... >> It features 7 full page, full color illustrations by German artist >> Alexander Preuss." -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEAREKAAYFAkk124cACgkQvpDo5Pfl1oJffACggjtw5/vbOQ8nnS+1u1B5hWzv 9ZQAn3PAbSYf8XvuUuSBBy3aH/yu/4Kv =14kB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > Did Preuss understand what he read? Seems to have missed the boat in a lot of ways. Obviously he's done a lot of hard work and some of this stuff looks great. But I have lots of issues with these not conforming to the text very closely. I have so many complaints here I should just not get started, I suppose. > > most of the plates. > http://www.abalakin.de/special_080216.asp > > a few more > http://www.abalakin.de/gallery.asp I suppose we oughtn't to blame Preuss: "Everey item that was visualized was good researched by me and from some hardcore Gene Wolfe fans i met on the internet." ``` gwern ``` --- ### Son of Witz *03 Dec 2008, 01:18 · follows Gwern Branwen* >> Did Preuss understand what he read? Seems to have missed the boat in a lot of ways. Obviously he's done a lot of hard work and some of this stuff looks great. But I have lots of issues with these not conforming to the text very closely. I have so many complaints here I should just not get started, I suppose. > I suppose we oughtn't to blame Preuss: > > "Everey item that was visualized was good researched by me and from > some hardcore Gene Wolfe fans i met on the internet." We have met the enemy and he is us. ---