{ "export": { "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/5286", "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 5286, "subject": "[AEG] Gideon Chase's identity", "messages": 5, "voices": 4, "first": "2008-12-21T21:25:01+00:00", "last": "2008-12-21T23:33:24+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "<3f3f88ad0812211325u7df2026buc1dc6add3f964147@mail.gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "Blake Hyde", "address": "syrion at gmail.com" }, "date": "2008-12-21T21:25:01+00:00", "subject": "(urth) [AEG] Gideon Chase's identity", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Sorry if this is a common theory; I wasn't able to find anything like\nthis in the archives. It seems to me that Gideon Chase is likely to\nbe a hybrid of a Wolder and perhaps the elder Chase's wife. Wolfe\nmentions several times that Wolders can hybridize with \"lower forms,\"\nand it would explain his eyes. Near the end of the novel, Klauser\ntells Cassie that Wolders look just like humans until you look\nclosely.\n\nHmm." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "David Duffy", "address": "david.duffy at qimr.edu.au" }, "date": "2008-12-21T21:40:55+00:00", "subject": "(urth) [AEG] Gideon Chase's identity", "in_reply_to": "<3f3f88ad0812211325u7df2026buc1dc6add3f964147@mail.gmail.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Sun, 21 Dec 2008, Blake Hyde wrote:\nSorry if this is a common theory; I wasn't able to find anything like\nthis in the archives. It seems to me that Gideon Chase is likely to\nbe a hybrid of a Wolder and perhaps the elder Chase's wife. Wolfe\nmentions several times that Wolders can hybridize with \"lower forms,\"\nand it would explain his eyes. Near the end of the novel, Klauser\ntells Cassie that Wolders look just like humans until you look\nclosely." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "It is only male Wolders who can alter their DNA.\n\nWas just thinking the same thing, but haven't been through the backlog of \nentries yet. He also seems to be quite familiar with the bat-people, who \nare also possibly Wolder-animal hybrids.\n\nDavid Duffy." }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "| David Duffy (MBBS PhD) ,-_|\\\n| email: davidD at qimr.edu.au ph: INT+61+7+3362-0217 fax: -0101 / *\n| Epidemiology Unit, Queensland Institute of Medical Research \\_,-._/\n| 300 Herston Rd, Brisbane, Queensland 4029, Australia GPG 4D0B994A v" } ] }, { "message_id": "<3f3f88ad0812211353q7d9298edt56511cd96b7e390b@mail.gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "Blake Hyde", "address": "syrion at gmail.com" }, "date": "2008-12-21T21:53:34+00:00", "subject": "(urth) [AEG] Gideon Chase's identity", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 4:40 PM, David Duffy wrote:\nOn Sun, 21 Dec 2008, Blake Hyde wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Sorry if this is a common theory; I wasn't able to find anything like\nthis in the archives. It seems to me that Gideon Chase is likely to\nbe a hybrid of a Wolder and perhaps the elder Chase's wife. Wolfe\nmentions several times that Wolders can hybridize with \"lower forms,\"\nand it would explain his eyes. Near the end of the novel, Klauser\ntells Cassie that Wolders look just like humans until you look\nclosely." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "It is only male Wolders who can alter their DNA." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Yes, this is why I think Chase's \"father\" was being cuckolded. This\nwould also explain why Klauser tells Cassie that the Wolders sometimes\ntry to seduce human women." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Was just thinking the same thing, but haven't been through the backlog of\nentries yet. He also seems to be quite familiar with the bat-people, who\nare also possibly Wolder-animal hybrids." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I think the bat-people are something else entirely, one of the shyer\nraces who live \"like mice in [the Storm King's] barn.\"" } ] }, { "message_id": "<005301c963bf$0773c220$34ce4a0c@rclackey>", "from": { "name": "Roy C. Lackey", "address": "rclackey at stic.net" }, "date": "2008-12-21T22:54:01+00:00", "subject": "(urth) [AEG] Gideon Chase's identity", "in_reply_to": "<3f3f88ad0812211325u7df2026buc1dc6add3f964147@mail.gmail.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Blake Hyde wrote:\nSorry if this is a common theory; I wasn't able to find anything like\nthis in the archives. It seems to me that Gideon Chase is likely to\nbe a hybrid of a Wolder and perhaps the elder Chase's wife. Wolfe\nmentions several times that Wolders can hybridize with \"lower forms,\"\nand it would explain his eyes. Near the end of the novel, Klauser\ntells Cassie that Wolders look just like humans until you look\nclosely." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I brought that stuff up four days ago, but no one followed up on it. Maybe\nit got lost in the shuffle. It happens all the time that someone sees\nsomething that someone else has seen. Don't worry about it.\n\nhttp://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/2008-December/011347.html\n\n-Roy" } ] }, { "message_id": "<494ED244.6010301@gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "Dave Tallman", "address": "davetallman at msn.com" }, "date": "2008-12-21T23:33:24+00:00", "subject": "(urth) [AEG] Gideon Chase's identity", "in_reply_to": "<005301c963bf$0773c220$34ce4a0c@rclackey>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Roy C. Lackey wrote:\nI brought that stuff up four days ago, but no one followed up on it. Maybe\nit got lost in the shuffle. It happens all the time that someone sees\nsomething that someone else has seen. Don't worry about it.\n " }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I brought it up a couple of months ago, along with some additional \ntwists. Here is my reference:\nhttp://lists.urth.net/htdig.cgi/urth-urth.net/2008-October/010311.html\n\nIn brief, my theory is that:\n1) Gid's biological father is a Woldercan native.\n2) His father is a \"walker of dreams\" (wizard) who inspired Lovecraft's \ntales of Randolph Carter.\n3) Working from arcane knowledge he possessed, Robert Chase worked with \nChuck Finney to get Woldercan discovered. Finney is a descendant of the \nman who wrote \"The Circus of Dr. Lao\" and may have had some secret notes \nfrom the time his forefather met that alien being.\n4) Robert Chase probably had his wife impregnated by a Woldercan \ndeliberately, in order to produce a powerful child.\n5) Robert Chase trained his son in Earth arcana." } ] } ] }