{ "export": { "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/5298", "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 5298, "subject": "New interview", "messages": 8, "voices": 6, "first": "2009-01-07T12:30:59+00:00", "last": "2009-01-07T17:26:31+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "<6A1C1918-8052-4DB5-BD92-4A833C52BA14@gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "Kettil Rejving", "address": "kettil.rejving at gmail.com" }, "date": "2009-01-07T12:30:59+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New interview", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Hi everyone! I found this in my Gene Wolfe news feed:\nhttp://www.nebulaawards.com/index.php/interview/gene_wolfe\n\nKettil,\nSweden" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Son of Witz", "address": "sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org" }, "date": "2009-01-07T15:18:41+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New interview", "in_reply_to": "<6A1C1918-8052-4DB5-BD92-4A833C52BA14@gmail.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "thanks.\nI like the bit about sounds and voices.\nthe comments at the bottom are hilarious.\n~witz" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Jan 7, 2009, at 4:30 AM, Kettil Rejving wrote:\nHi everyone! I found this in my Gene Wolfe news feed:\nhttp://www.nebulaawards.com/index.php/interview/gene_wolfe\n\nKettil,\nSweden\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<358120.60230.qm@web37605.mail.mud.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "Craig Brewer", "address": "cnbrewer at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2009-01-07T15:19:00+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New interview", "in_reply_to": "<6A1C1918-8052-4DB5-BD92-4A833C52BA14@gmail.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Thanks for the link.\n\nAnd just a tiny note: _Strange Horizons_ did their year in review. Unfortunately, this was the single Wolfe mention:\n\n\"As to the worst of the year: both The Night Sessions by Ken MacLeod and Matter by Iain M. Banks were disappointing in comparison to their recent\nnovels, but still readable. Which is more than can be said for An Evil Guest by Gene Wolfe, which is perhaps the worst thing he has written since his first novel, Operation Ares.\" -- Paul Kincaid\n\nhttp://www.strangehorizons.com/reviews/2009/01/2008_in_review.shtml\n\n\n\n\n\n----- Original Message ----\nFrom: Kettil Rejving \nTo: urth at lists.urth.net\nSent: Wednesday, January 7, 2009 6:30:59 AM\nSubject: (urth) New interview\n\nHi everyone! I found this in my Gene Wolfe news feed:\nhttp://www.nebulaawards.com/index.php/interview/gene_wolfe\n\nKettil,\nSweden" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Gwern Branwen", "address": "gwern0 at gmail.com" }, "date": "2009-01-07T15:26:14+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New interview", "in_reply_to": "<358120.60230.qm@web37605.mail.mud.yahoo.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----\nHash: SHA512" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Craig Brewer wrote:\nThanks for the link.\n\nAnd just a tiny note: _Strange Horizons_ did their year in review. Unfortunately, this was the single Wolfe mention:\n\n\"As to the worst of the year: both The Night Sessions by Ken MacLeod and Matter by Iain M. Banks were disappointing in comparison to their recent\nnovels, but still readable. Which is more than can be said for An Evil Guest by Gene Wolfe, which is perhaps the worst thing he has written since his first novel, Operation Ares.\" -- Paul Kincaid\n\nhttp://www.strangehorizons.com/reviews/2009/01/2008_in_review.shtml" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I saw that one too. Perhaps it's just me - but AEG seems to have, for\na Wolfe, been absolutely savaged in the reviews.\n\nBased on the Urth.net discussions, y'all seem to like it fairly well.\nIntuitively, it seems to be getting as much discussion as either of\nthe Wizard-Knight or Pirate Freedom. (I haven't read it myself.)\n\nWhat's behind this discrepancy?\n\n- --\ngwern\n-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----\nVersion: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)\n\niEYEAREKAAYFAklkyZQACgkQvpDo5Pfl1oKHoACfdFQwfYp4w7GbrCDlQNrbw8G7\nnokAoJBNzBTBbB6puhX5RXqA1P2wxyRp\n=XMVy\n-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----" } ] }, { "message_id": "<443484.66811.qm@web37605.mail.mud.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "Craig Brewer", "address": "cnbrewer at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2009-01-07T15:28:03+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New interview", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Sounds indeed. My latest read-thru of New Sun was a \"listen-through\" from the audio versions that have been posted here before. Quite a different experience with many things standing out that didn't when I've read them before. (Also some unintentionally hilarious moments when the narrator tries to pronounce some of the unusual vocab, and even does it differently within the same paragraph...and then there's some questionable characterization at times...he makes Severian sound like a nasally git...but still quite enjoyable.) It would be wonderful to hear Wolfe read the whole thing.\n\n\n\n----- Original Message ----\nFrom: Son of Witz \nTo: The Urth Mailing List \nSent: Wednesday, January 7, 2009 9:18:41 AM\nSubject: Re: (urth) New interview\n\nthanks.\nI like the bit about sounds and voices.\nthe comments at the bottom are hilarious.\n~witz" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Jan 7, 2009, at 4:30 AM, Kettil Rejving wrote:\nHi everyone! I found this in my Gene Wolfe news feed:\nhttp://www.nebulaawards.com/index.php/interview/gene_wolfe\n\nKettil,\nSweden\n_______________________________________________\nUrth Mailing List\nTo post, write urth at urth.net\nSubscription/information: http://www.urth.net" } ] }, { "message_id": "<321812.33806.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "Stuart Hamm", "address": "hammstu at sbcglobal.net" }, "date": "2009-01-07T15:35:06+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New interview", "in_reply_to": "<358120.60230.qm@web37605.mail.mud.yahoo.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "That's funny!\n\nI had a hard time caring about AEG as well....\n\n\n???? Mobile — (415) 786-3624\n???? Skype? stuart.hamm\nmyspace.com/stuhamm\n? ??? stuarthamm.net\n\n\n--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Craig Brewer wrote:\n\nFrom: Craig Brewer \nSubject: Re: (urth) New interview\nTo: \"The Urth Mailing List\" \nDate: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 7:19 AM\n\nThanks for the link.\n\nAnd just a tiny note: _Strange Horizons_ did their year in review.\nUnfortunately, this was the single Wolfe mention:\n\n\"As to the worst of the year: both The Night Sessions by Ken MacLeod and\nMatter by Iain M. Banks were disappointing in comparison to their recent\nnovels, but still readable. Which is more than can be said for An Evil Guest by\nGene Wolfe, which is perhaps the worst thing he has written since his first\nnovel, Operation Ares.\" -- Paul Kincaid\n\nhttp://www.strangehorizons.com/reviews/2009/01/2008_in_review.shtml\n\n\n\n\n\n----- Original Message ----\nFrom: Kettil Rejving \nTo: urth at lists.urth.net\nSent: Wednesday, January 7, 2009 6:30:59 AM\nSubject: (urth) New interview\n\nHi everyone! I found this in my Gene Wolfe news feed:\nhttp://www.nebulaawards.com/index.php/interview/gene_wolfe\n\nKettil,\nSweden\n\n\n\n " } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Son of Witz", "address": "sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org" }, "date": "2009-01-07T17:09:56+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New interview", "in_reply_to": "<321812.33806.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I agree, I'd love to hear Wolfe read it.\nAvers does a good job though. I really like his characterization of Severian, actually, just the right mix of foolishness and sophistication. I do wonder about many of his pronunciations, which change from book to book as well.\njust started listening to the Nightside audiobook. I think it's Avers, but I skipped the attribution. Right off the bat I was wondering about his pronunciation. Pa(y)tera, not Pa(h)tera. I think the phenome must be Pah, not Pay, by simple contrast to Maytera. \n\nAs I may have mentioned, it's great to listen. I notice different stuff than when I'm reading.\n\n~witz" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "-----Original Message-----\nFrom: Craig Brewer [mailto:cnbrewer at yahoo.com]\nSent: Wednesday, January 7, 2009 07:28 AM\nTo: 'The Urth Mailing List'\nSubject: Re: (urth) New interview\n\nSounds indeed. My latest read-thru of New Sun was a \"listen-through\" from the audio versions that have been posted here before. Quite a different experience with many things standing out that didn't when I've read them before. (Also some unintentionally hilarious moments when the narrator tries to pronounce some of the unusual vocab, and even does it differently within the same paragraph...and then there's some questionable characterization at times...he makes Severian sound like a nasally git...but still quite enjoyable.) It would be wonderful to hear Wolfe read the whole thing.\n\n\n\n----- Original Message ----\nFrom: Son of Witz \nTo: The Urth Mailing List \nSent: Wednesday, January 7, 2009 9:18:41 AM\nSubject: Re: (urth) New interview\n\nthanks.\nI like the bit about sounds and voices.\nthe comments at the bottom are hilarious.\n~witz\n\nOn Jan 7, 2009, at 4:30 AM, Kettil Rejving wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Hi everyone! I found this in my Gene Wolfe news feed:\nhttp://www.nebulaawards.com/index.php/interview/gene_wolfe\n\nKettil,\nSweden\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Adam Thornton", "address": "adam at io.com" }, "date": "2009-01-07T17:26:31+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New interview", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Jan 7, 2009, at 9:26 AM, Gwern Branwen wrote:\n\nBased on the Urth.net discussions, y'all seem to like it fairly well.\nIntuitively, it seems to be getting as much discussion as either of\nthe Wizard-Knight or Pirate Freedom. (I haven't read it myself.)\n\nWhat's behind this discrepancy?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "It's easy to read as a straight-up fluffy no-depth pulp adventure.\n\nAdam" } ] } ] }