# Venus in the RAW *The Urth list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 01 May 1998* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### m.driussi *01 May 1998, 13:34* Reply: Item #7020139 from URTH at LISTS.BEST.COM@INET# Dan, FWIW, I first encountered the Venus de Milo story (modern forgery, arms were actually broken off to increase saleability yet left in the cave, etc.) in something by Robert Anton Wilson--probably the ILLUMINATUS! trilogy (1975). RAW says she ain't Venus but Eris, if I remember rightly . . . in any event, one hand of the missing arms holds the golden apple of discord, causing some iconic confusion between Eris (giver of apple), Aphrodite (winner of apple, triggering Trojan War), and Eve (eater of apple, triggering Fall of Man). As PEACE was also first published in 1975, I concluded that something was in the air during the generative periods of these novels . . . happy hunting! =mantis= ---