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  "thread": {
    "id": 5309,
    "subject": "Silk for Calde!",
    "messages": 9,
    "voices": 7,
    "first": "2009-01-14T18:48:47+00:00",
    "last": "2009-01-16T15:00:04+00:00"
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    {
      "message_id": "<496DDF2F.BE06.00EF.1@olivet.edu>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Stephen Case",
        "address": "scase at olivet.edu"
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      "date": "2009-01-14T18:48:47+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Silk for Calde!",
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          "text": "Since we're on the topic, I'd just like to say that I would pay for a well-done t-shirt with the slogon \"Silk for Calde\" scrawled across it.  Maybe with the silhouette of a man and a bird.  Something very graffi-esque, like the \"Che\" shirts you'll see people wear.  I've often thought of making (or, since I'm not that artist, having someone make) shirts like this to take to a sci-fi convention.  They could be complimented with \"Severian for Autarch\" shirts, though it doesn't quite have the same ring.  I know someone a while back posted a \"Silk for Calde\" bumpersticker pattern.\n \n-Steve"
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      "message_id": "<49506.46596.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Stuart Hamm",
        "address": "hammstu at sbcglobal.net"
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      "date": "2009-01-14T19:12:25+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Silk for Calde!",
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          "text": "I'd buy a couple..Witz???\n\n\n???? Mobile — (415) 786-3624\n???? Skype? stuart.hamm\nmyspace.com/stuhamm\n? ??? stuarthamm.net\n\n\n--- On Wed, 1/14/09, Stephen Case <scase at olivet.edu> wrote:\n\nFrom: Stephen Case <scase at olivet.edu>\nSubject: (urth) Silk for Calde!\nTo: urth at lists.urth.net\nDate: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 10:48 AM\n\n\n\nSince we're on the topic, I'd just like to say that I would pay for a well-done t-shirt with the slogon \"Silk for Calde\" scrawled across it. Maybe with the silhouette of a man and a bird. Something very graffi-esque, like the \"Che\" shirts you'll see people wear. I've often thought of making (or, since I'm not that artist, having someone make) shirts like this to take to a sci-fi convention. They could be complimented with \"Severian for Autarch\" shirts, though it doesn't quite have the same ring. I know someone a while back posted a \"Silk for Calde\" bumpersticker pattern.\n\n-Steve_______________________________________________"
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    {
      "message_id": "<W5990714161127081231960387@webmail17>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Son of Witz",
        "address": "sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org"
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      "date": "2009-01-14T19:13:07+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Silk for Calde!",
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          "text": "-----Original Message-----\nFrom: Stephen Case [mailto:scase at olivet.edu]\nSent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 10:48 AM\nTo: urth at lists.urth.net\nSubject: (urth) Silk for Calde!\n\nSince we're on the topic, I'd just like to say that I would pay for a well-done t-shirt with the slogon \"Silk for Calde\" scrawled across it.  Maybe with the silhouette of a man and a bird.  Something very graffi-esque, like the \"Che\" shirts you'll see people wear.  I've often thought of making (or, since I'm not that artist, having someone make) shirts like this to take to a sci-fi convention.  They could be complimented with \"Severian for Autarch\" shirts, though it doesn't quite have the same ring.  I know someone a while back posted a \"Silk for Calde\" bumpersticker pattern.\n\n-Steve"
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          "text": "Good idea.\na dude on that new genewolfebookclub board said he had one made at one of those one-off shirt places. \nNow you've tempted me to design an image for it.  \nI'd imagined silhouette as well, but since you mentioned Che, I'm tempted to put some facial details in there. \nI picture Silk to look like that actor Hugh Laurie. I've never seen his show or watched him act, but I've seen his mug.  anyone have an other suggestions?\n\non that note, maybe we should start a \"fantasy casting\" thread.\nI've been casting actors from all ages into the roles of BotNS.  Since my motives are for illustrations and not a movie (*shudder*) I've been casting from any era.  I'd be interested in what others would think, though it should be it's own thread I suppose.  As a teaser, I'll say I like a young Sigourney Weaver as Thecla and an OLD Clint Eastwood as Malrubius.\n\n~sonofwitz"
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        "name": "Matthew Groves",
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      "date": "2009-01-15T00:15:02+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Silk for Calde!",
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          "text": "On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Son of Witz <sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org>wrote:\nI'd imagined silhouette as well, but since you mentioned Che, I'm tempted\nto put some facial details in there.\nI picture Silk to look like that actor Hugh Laurie. I've never seen his\nshow or watched him act, but I've seen his mug.  anyone have an other\nsuggestions?"
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          "text": "I seem to remember Silk being considerably younger than Hugh Laurie when he\nwas first Cald?.  Someone young, slender, and very fair.  Take your image of\nSeverian and create a photo-negative out of it.\n\non that note, maybe we should start a \"fantasy casting\" thread."
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          "text": "I've been casting actors from all ages into the roles of BotNS. Since my\nmotives are for illustrations and not a movie (*shudder*) I've been casting\nfrom any era.  I'd be interested in what others would think, though it\nshould be it's own thread I suppose.  As a teaser, I'll say I like a young\nSigourney Weaver as Thecla and an OLD Clint Eastwood as Malrubius."
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          "text": "What fun!  A young Keanu Reeves for Severian?"
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        "name": "Son of Witz",
        "address": "sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org"
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      "date": "2009-01-15T00:30:13+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Silk for Calde!",
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          "text": "-----Original Message-----\nFrom: Matthew Groves [mailto:matthewalangroves at gmail.com]"
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          "text": "On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Son of Witz <sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org>wrote:"
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          "text": "I'd imagined silhouette as well, but since you mentioned Che, I'm tempted\nto put some facial details in there.\nI picture Silk to look like that actor Hugh Laurie. I've never seen his\nshow or watched him act, but I've seen his mug.  anyone have an other\nsuggestions?"
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          "text": "I seem to remember Silk being considerably younger than Hugh Laurie when he\nwas first Cald?.  Someone young, slender, and very fair.  Take your image of\nSeverian and create a photo-negative out of it.\n\non that note, maybe we should start a \"fantasy casting\" thread."
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          "text": "I've been casting actors from all ages into the roles of BotNS. Since my\nmotives are for illustrations and not a movie (*shudder*) I've been casting\nfrom any era.  I'd be interested in what others would think, though it\nshould be it's own thread I suppose.  As a teaser, I'll say I like a young\nSigourney Weaver as Thecla and an OLD Clint Eastwood as Malrubius."
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          "text": "What fun!  A young Keanu Reeves for Severian?"
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          "text": "yeah, Silk is 23.\nLaurie is now too old.\n\nKeanu does come to mind, but I'd have to reject him on principle :D\nand he's already been cast as a messiah.\n\nI don't watch movies or tv enough to be good at this though. I can only think of household name actors.\n~witz"
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      "from": {
        "name": "hammstu at sbcglobal.net",
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      "date": "2009-01-15T01:08:42+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Silk for Calde!",
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          "text": "A young Jimmy Stewart as Silk???\n------Original Message------\nFrom: Son of Witz\nSender: urth-bounces at lists.urth.net\nTo: The Urth Mailing List\nReplyTo: The Urth Mailing List"
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          "text": "Sent: Jan 14, 2009 4:30 PM\nSubject: Re: (urth) Silk for Calde!\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: Matthew Groves [mailto:matthewalangroves at gmail.com]"
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          "text": "On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Son of Witz <sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org>wrote:"
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          "text": "I'd imagined silhouette as well, but since you mentioned Che, I'm tempted\nto put some facial details in there.\nI picture Silk to look like that actor Hugh Laurie. I've never seen his\nshow or watched him act, but I've seen his mug.  anyone have an other\nsuggestions?"
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          "text": "I seem to remember Silk being considerably younger than Hugh Laurie when he\nwas first Cald?.  Someone young, slender, and very fair.  Take your image of\nSeverian and create a photo-negative out of it.\n\non that note, maybe we should start a \"fantasy casting\" thread."
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          "text": "I've been casting actors from all ages into the roles of BotNS. Since my\nmotives are for illustrations and not a movie (*shudder*) I've been casting\nfrom any era.  I'd be interested in what others would think, though it\nshould be it's own thread I suppose.  As a teaser, I'll say I like a young\nSigourney Weaver as Thecla and an OLD Clint Eastwood as Malrubius."
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          "text": "What fun!  A young Keanu Reeves for Severian?"
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          "text": "yeah, Silk is 23.\nLaurie is now too old.\n\nKeanu does come to mind, but I'd have to reject him on principle :D\nand he's already been cast as a messiah.\n\nI don't watch movies or tv enough to be good at this though. I can only think of household name actors.\n~witz"
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      "from": {
        "name": "James Wynn",
        "address": "crushtv at gmail.com"
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      "date": "2009-01-15T05:08:07+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Silk for Calde!",
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          "text": "Someone young, slender, and very fair."
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          "text": "A young Jimmy Stewart as Silk???"
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          "text": "Based on Remora's words, Silk is not a slight figure. I would say Dolf \nLungren would be a better casting choice.\n\nJ "
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      "date": "2009-01-15T06:47:19+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Silk for Calde!",
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          "text": "Do we have room for Liam Neeson anywhere?\n \nJohn\n**************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy \nsteps! \n(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De\ncemailfooterNO62)"
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      "from": {
        "name": "David Stockhoff",
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      "date": "2009-01-16T15:00:04+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Silk for Calde!",
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          "text": "I thought Malrubius was rather fat ...\n\n\n-------------------------------------------------------------\n\non that note, maybe we should start a \"fantasy casting\" thread.\nI've been casting actors from all ages into the roles of BotNS.  Since my motives are for illustrations and not a movie (*shudder*) I've been casting from any era.  I'd be interested in what others would think, though it should be it's own thread I suppose.  As a teaser, I'll say I like a young Sigourney Weaver as Thecla and an OLD Clint Eastwood as Malrubius.\n\n---witz"
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