# Fantasy Casting Thread *The Urth list — 30 messages, 12 voices, 15 Jan 2009* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Dan'l Danehy-Oakes *15 Jan 2009, 00:29* > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Matthew Groves > wrote: > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Son of Witz wrote: >> on that note, maybe we should start a "fantasy casting" thread. >> I've been casting actors from all ages into the roles of BotNS. Since my >> motives are for illustrations and not a movie (*shudder*) I've been casting >> from any era. I'd be interested in what others would think, though it >> should be it's own thread I suppose. As a teaser, I'll say I like a young >> Sigourney Weaver as Thecla and an OLD Clint Eastwood as Malrubius. > What fun! A young Keanu Reeves for Severian? Keanu Reeves isn't sympathetic enough to play a torturer. No, really. Silk: A young Robert Redford Marble and Mint: CGI with unknowns as voiceovers Crane: Geoffrey Rush - don't laugh, look at him as Trotsky in "Frida" Blood: Alfred Molina Severian: is really hard to cast. Viggo Mortensen might almost work but not quite. Maybe Mandy Patinken ca. "Princess Bride"? Jolenta: Selma Hayek Dorcas: Anne Hathaway, but a bit older Dr. Talos: Jonathan Frid Baldanders: another hard one; a body builder of some sort, magicked even larger by the wonders of SFX. But not Ahnold. Jonas: Bruce Boxleitner Someone else take over here. ``` Dan'l Danehy-Oakes, writer, trainer, bon vivant ----- http://www.livejournal.com/users/sturgeonslawyer http://www.danehyoakes.com I once absend-mindedly ordered Three Mile Island dressing in a restaurant and, with great presence of mind, they brought Thousand Island Dressing and a bottle of chili sauce. -- T. Pratchett ``` --- ### Gwern Branwen *15 Jan 2009, 00:39 · in reply to Dan'l Danehy-Oakes* -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote: > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Matthew Groves > wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Son of Witz wrote: >>> on that note, maybe we should start a "fantasy casting" thread. >>> I've been casting actors from all ages into the roles of BotNS. Since my >>> motives are for illustrations and not a movie (*shudder*) I've been casting >>> from any era. I'd be interested in what others would think, though it >>> should be it's own thread I suppose. As a teaser, I'll say I like a young >>> Sigourney Weaver as Thecla and an OLD Clint Eastwood as Malrubius. >> What fun! A young Keanu Reeves for Severian? > Keanu Reeves isn't sympathetic enough to play a torturer. No, really. > > Silk: A young Robert Redford > Marble and Mint: CGI with unknowns as voiceovers > Crane: Geoffrey Rush - don't laugh, look at him as Trotsky in "Frida" > Blood: Alfred Molina > > Severian: is really hard to cast. Viggo Mortensen might almost work but > not quite. Maybe Mandy Patinken ca. "Princess Bride"? > Jolenta: Selma Hayek > Dorcas: Anne Hathaway, but a bit older > Dr. Talos: Jonathan Frid > Baldanders: another hard one; a body builder of some sort, magicked > even larger by the wonders of SFX. But not Ahnold. > Jonas: Bruce Boxleitner > > Someone else take over here. For Baldanders, I can't help but think Marlon Brando (with SFX); perhaps _Apocalypse Now_ era Brando. - -- gwern -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEAREKAAYFAkluhaMACgkQvpDo5Pfl1oIHqQCeLz1Csqwj7i+OTu9xEm4Et4y/ VwkAnR4KzLlrNVxCx2J7PlU6TcHlMvkW =sn0N -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- ### James Crossley *15 Jan 2009, 00:41 · in reply to Dan'l Danehy-Oakes* > On 1/14/09 4:29 PM, "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes" wrote: > > Keanu Reeves isn't sympathetic enough to play a torturer. No, really. > > Silk: A young Robert Redford > Marble and Mint: CGI with unknowns as voiceovers > Crane: Geoffrey Rush - don't laugh, look at him as Trotsky in "Frida" > Blood: Alfred Molina > > Severian: is really hard to cast. Viggo Mortensen might almost work but > not quite. Maybe Mandy Patinken ca. "Princess Bride"? > Jolenta: Selma Hayek > Dorcas: Anne Hathaway, but a bit older > Dr. Talos: Jonathan Frid > Baldanders: another hard one; a body builder of some sort, magicked > even larger by the wonders of SFX. But not Ahnold. > Jonas: Bruce Boxleitner > > Someone else take over here. Arguing over imaginary casting choices for minor literary characters is probably as trivial as a conversation can be, but I'm surprised to find how strongly I feel that your Dorcas choice is hopelessly wrong. I'm thinking Samantha Morton. James --- ### Son of Witz *15 Jan 2009, 00:50 · follows James Crossley* >>> on that note, maybe we should start a "fantasy casting" thread. >>> I've been casting actors from all ages into the roles of BotNS. Since my >>> motives are for illustrations and not a movie (*shudder*) I've been casting >>> from any era. I'd be interested in what others would think, though it >>> should be it's own thread I suppose. As a teaser, I'll say I like a young >>> Sigourney Weaver as Thecla and an OLD Clint Eastwood as Malrubius. >> What fun! A young Keanu Reeves for Severian? > Keanu Reeves isn't sympathetic enough to play a torturer. No, really. > > Silk: A young Robert Redford > Marble and Mint: CGI with unknowns as voiceovers > Crane: Geoffrey Rush - don't laugh, look at him as Trotsky in "Frida" > Blood: Alfred Molina > > Severian: is really hard to cast. Viggo Mortensen might almost work but > not quite. Maybe Mandy Patinken ca. "Princess Bride"? > Jolenta: Selma Hayek > Dorcas: Anne Hathaway, but a bit older > Dr. Talos: Jonathan Frid > Baldanders: another hard one; a body builder of some sort, magicked > even larger by the wonders of SFX. But not Ahnold. > Jonas: Bruce Boxleitner > > Someone else take over here. > -- > Dan'l Danehy-Oakes, writer, trainer, bon vivant Jonathin Frid is a good suggestion for Talos, as well as young Redford for Silk. Currently I have: Severian: Christian Bale Palaemon: Max von Sydow Malrubius: Clint Eastwood (Gran Torino age) Hethor: John Malkovich (Brad Douriff would be another choice, if obvious) Vodalus: A younger Terrence Stamp Dorcas: young Judy Bowker Agia: Nicole Kidman Cyriaca: middle aged Susan Sarandon ~witz --- ### Dave Lebling *15 Jan 2009, 01:10 · in reply to James Crossley* The late Erland van Lidth de Jeude would have been a perfect Baldanders. He actually played a naviscaput in "Time Bandits," and we all know that's how Baldanders would have ended up in time. Marilyn Monroe was the only person who could have played Jolenta. I think Wolfe said explicitly that she "was" Jolenta. The young Natalie Wood would have been perfect for Dorcas. Anne Hathaway isn't such a bad choice among contemporary actors though. -- Dave Lebling, aka vizcacha > James Crossley wrote: > On 1/14/09 4:29 PM, "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes" wrote: > > > >> Keanu Reeves isn't sympathetic enough to play a torturer. No, really. >> >> Silk: A young Robert Redford >> Marble and Mint: CGI with unknowns as voiceovers >> Crane: Geoffrey Rush - don't laugh, look at him as Trotsky in "Frida" >> Blood: Alfred Molina >> >> Severian: is really hard to cast. Viggo Mortensen might almost work but >> not quite. Maybe Mandy Patinken ca. "Princess Bride"? >> Jolenta: Selma Hayek >> Dorcas: Anne Hathaway, but a bit older >> Dr. Talos: Jonathan Frid >> Baldanders: another hard one; a body builder of some sort, magicked >> even larger by the wonders of SFX. But not Ahnold. >> Jonas: Bruce Boxleitner >> >> Someone else take over here. >> > Arguing over imaginary casting choices for minor literary characters is > probably as trivial as a conversation can be, but I'm surprised to find how > strongly I feel that your Dorcas choice is hopelessly wrong. I'm thinking > Samantha Morton. > > James > > _______________________________________________ --- ### hammstu at sbcglobal.net *15 Jan 2009, 01:11 · follows Dave Lebling* And what's his name who played Sam Gamgee and Rudy as Horn..or hoof or hyde..? ------Original Message------ From: Son of Witz Sender: urth-bounces at lists.urth.net To: The Urth Mailing List ReplyTo: The Urth Mailing List >>> Sent: Jan 14, 2009 4:50 PM >>> Subject: Re: (urth) Fantasy Casting Thread >>> on that note, maybe we should start a "fantasy casting" thread. >>> I've been casting actors from all ages into the roles of BotNS. Since my >>> motives are for illustrations and not a movie (*shudder*) I've been casting >>> from any era. I'd be interested in what others would think, though it >>> should be it's own thread I suppose. As a teaser, I'll say I like a young >>> Sigourney Weaver as Thecla and an OLD Clint Eastwood as Malrubius. >> What fun! A young Keanu Reeves for Severian? > Keanu Reeves isn't sympathetic enough to play a torturer. No, really. > > Silk: A young Robert Redford > Marble and Mint: CGI with unknowns as voiceovers > Crane: Geoffrey Rush - don't laugh, look at him as Trotsky in "Frida" > Blood: Alfred Molina > > Severian: is really hard to cast. Viggo Mortensen might almost work but > not quite. Maybe Mandy Patinken ca. "Princess Bride"? > Jolenta: Selma Hayek > Dorcas: Anne Hathaway, but a bit older > Dr. Talos: Jonathan Frid > Baldanders: another hard one; a body builder of some sort, magicked > even larger by the wonders of SFX. But not Ahnold. > Jonas: Bruce Boxleitner > > Someone else take over here. > -- > Dan'l Danehy-Oakes, writer, trainer, bon vivant Jonathin Frid is a good suggestion for Talos, as well as young Redford for Silk. Currently I have: Severian: Christian Bale Palaemon: Max von Sydow Malrubius: Clint Eastwood (Gran Torino age) Hethor: John Malkovich (Brad Douriff would be another choice, if obvious) Vodalus: A younger Terrence Stamp Dorcas: young Judy Bowker Agia: Nicole Kidman Cyriaca: middle aged Susan Sarandon ~witz --- ### John Smith *15 Jan 2009, 01:22 · in reply to Son of Witz* > --- On Wed, 1/14/09, Son of Witz wrote: > From: Son of Witz > Subject: Re: (urth) Fantasy Casting Thread > To: "The Urth Mailing List" > Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 7:50 PM > on that note, maybe we should start a > "fantasy casting" thread. >>>> I've been casting actors from all ages >>>> into the roles of BotNS. Since my >>>> motives are for illustrations and not a movie >>>> (*shudder*) I've been casting >>>> from any era. I'd be interested in what >>>> others would think, though it >>>> should be it's own thread I suppose. Character Actor =========== ======= Severian Johnny Depp Thecla Brooke Shields Vodalus Warren Beatty Thea Liv Tyler Baldanders John Goodman Dr. Talos Woody Allen Agia Christina Ricci Dorcas Mary-kate Olsen Jolenta Pamela Anderson Hethor Christopher Walken Master Gurloes Gene Hackman Master Palemon Clint Eastwood Master Malrubius Alec Guinness The Autarch Leslie Jordan Jonas Steven Wright Juturna Rosie O'Donnell Abaia Rush Limbaugh Reasons for some of the lesser-known actors: 1. Christina Ricci played Wednesday Addams in the Addams Family movies. For her ability to play Agia, I submit "The Opposite of Sex" and "Black Snake Moan." 2. Leslie Jordan had the role of Beverley Leslie, a small effeminate man, on the show "Will and Grace." He looked exactly like how I had pictured the Autarch in my mind. 3. Stephen Wright is a comedian with a dead-pan delivery. Best wishes, Jack > _______________________________________________ --- ### Adam Thornton *15 Jan 2009, 02:12 · in reply to Gwern Branwen* > On Jan 14, 2009, at 6:39 PM, Gwern Branwen wrote: > > For Baldanders, I can't help but think Marlon Brando (with SFX); > perhaps _Apocalypse Now_ era Brando. YES YES YES. The Autarch: John Hurt from _I, Claudius_. Jolenta, post-glamour: mid-period Anna-Nicole Smith. It's not quite right for Thecla, but totally-hot-period (e.g. _Blue Velvet_) Isabella Rosellini. Adam --- ### Adam Thornton *15 Jan 2009, 02:13 · in reply to Dave Lebling* > On Jan 14, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Dave Lebling wrote: > Marilyn Monroe was the only person who could have played Jolenta. I > think Wolfe said explicitly that she "was" Jolenta. I stick by my casting of Anna-Nicole Smith, as the (even-more) artificial Monroe. Adam --- ### hammstu at sbcglobal.net *15 Jan 2009, 16:07 · in reply to Adam Thornton* I've gotta go for Pamela Anderson as Jolenta...the fakest of them all...and if Keanu Reeves is involved in ANY way I'm gonna puke.. I'm telling you... A "Harvey" era Jimmy Stewart as Silk in the sequel and a young, tortured Charlton Heston as Severian Danny DeVito as Patera Quetzl????...or Fathher Inire???...or Billy Barty as both??? Sent from my BlackBerry? smartphone with SprintSpeed -----Original Message----- From: Adam Thornton Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:13:11 To: The Urth Mailing List Subject: Re: (urth) Fantasy Casting Thread --- ### Jeffrey Brent McBeth *15 Jan 2009, 16:47 · in reply to hammstu at sbcglobal.net* > I'm telling you... A "Harvey" era Jimmy Stewart as Silk in the sequel and a young, tortured Charlton Heston as Severian I can't think of anyone that can play smarmy authority figures better than Tim Curry. He may be a bit too tall though Jeff ``` ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them." -- Mark Twain ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ``` --- ### Jeffrey Brent McBeth *15 Jan 2009, 16:54 · in reply to Jeffrey Brent McBeth* > On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 11:47:21AM -0500, Jeffrey Brent McBeth wrote: > > I can't think of anyone that can play smarmy authority figures better > than Tim Curry. He may be a bit too tall though Err I mean Patera Quetzal, not Silk or Severian Jeff ``` ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them." -- Mark Twain ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ``` --- ### John Watkins *15 Jan 2009, 17:01 · in reply to Jeffrey Brent McBeth* He might be even better as Incus. > On 1/15/09, Jeffrey Brent McBeth wrote: > On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 11:47:21AM -0500, Jeffrey Brent McBeth wrote: >> I can't think of anyone that can play smarmy authority figures better >> than Tim Curry. He may be a bit too tall though > Err I mean Patera Quetzal, not Silk or Severian > > Jeff > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "The man who does not read good books has no advantage over > the man who cannot read them." > -- Mark Twain > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFJb2ouXazNjIaibJERAlTTAKCPwop8+UPLjFZcNEgnfeQSQMcWwgCeIyII > gHoaqW+BLe9DCGOojP2Y9dU= > =njpW > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ --- ### Dan'l Danehy-Oakes *15 Jan 2009, 17:05 · in reply to John Watkins* No - Rowan Atkinson for Incus. > On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:01 AM, John Watkins wrote: > He might be even better as Incus. > > On 1/15/09, Jeffrey Brent McBeth wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 11:47:21AM -0500, Jeffrey Brent McBeth wrote: >>> I can't think of anyone that can play smarmy authority figures better >>> than Tim Curry. He may be a bit too tall though >> Err I mean Patera Quetzal, not Silk or Severian >> >> Jeff >> >> -- >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> "The man who does not read good books has no advantage over >> the man who cannot read them." >> -- Mark Twain >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) >> >> iD8DBQFJb2ouXazNjIaibJERAlTTAKCPwop8+UPLjFZcNEgnfeQSQMcWwgCeIyII >> gHoaqW+BLe9DCGOojP2Y9dU= >> =njpW >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> _______________________________________________ --- ### hammstu at sbcglobal.net *15 Jan 2009, 17:20 · in reply to Dan'l Danehy-Oakes* Hehehehe Sent from my BlackBerry? smartphone with SprintSpeed -----Original Message----- From: "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes" Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:05:38 To: The Urth Mailing List Subject: Re: (urth) Fantasy Casting Thread No - Rowan Atkinson for Incus. > On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:01 AM, John Watkins wrote: > He might be even better as Incus. > > On 1/15/09, Jeffrey Brent McBeth wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 11:47:21AM -0500, Jeffrey Brent McBeth wrote: >>> I can't think of anyone that can play smarmy authority figures better >>> than Tim Curry. He may be a bit too tall though >> Err I mean Patera Quetzal, not Silk or Severian >> >> Jeff >> >> -- >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> "The man who does not read good books has no advantage over >> the man who cannot read them." >> -- Mark Twain >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) >> >> iD8DBQFJb2ouXazNjIaibJERAlTTAKCPwop8+UPLjFZcNEgnfeQSQMcWwgCeIyII >> gHoaqW+BLe9DCGOojP2Y9dU= >> =njpW >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Urth Mailing List >> To post, write urth at urth.net >> Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net > _______________________________________________ > Urth Mailing List > To post, write urth at urth.net > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net ``` Dan'l Danehy-Oakes, writer, trainer, bon vivant ----- http://www.livejournal.com/users/sturgeonslawyer http://www.danehyoakes.com I once absend-mindedly ordered Three Mile Island dressing in a restaurant and, with great presence of mind, they brought Thousand Island Dressing and a bottle of chili sauce. -- T. Pratchett ``` --- ### Son of Witz *15 Jan 2009, 17:38 · follows hammstu at sbcglobal.net* this is fun. I like Rowan Atkinson for Incus. Tim Curry would be good for Patera Ramora. I really like the Jimmy Stewart as Silk suggestion. Redford isn't bad either, though I think he's too square jawed. I could see Liam Neeson as well. I really like the Isabella Rosselini / Thechla suggestion. I read Jolenta as Marylin as well. But the Anna Nicole Smith suggestion is pretty apt, because there needs to be something annoyingly phony about Jolenta's looks. Spamela? no thanks. I don't think I would have ever thought of Depp as Severian, mostly because he's short, but his face fits the description well. thin nose, high cheekbones, deepset eyes, pointed chin with no cleft, or the barest hint. I'm still stuck on Christian Bale though, (sans BatBale voice, yuk!) John Hurt as Autarch? too manly. He's described as having the face of a 40 year old woman. Needs to be somebody very androgynous. I'd thought of Bowie, but he's still pretty square jawed. Lesli Jordan was a good suggestion. Actually, an elder John Hurt looks almost exactly like I pictured Jonas. a 30's-ish Brando is a good call for Baldander's face. I don't see him as fat at all though. My friend suggested that Jaws actor from Moonraker. ha. Jordon, on the list can't help but picture Andre the Giant and Wally Shawn from Princess Bride when he reads. Warren Beatty could be a good Vodalus, true. Rush Limbaugh as Abia, laughing out loud. good one. Alfred Molina as Blood would be perfect. I could dig Anne Hathaway as Thea. William Hurt as Typhon and Mike Tyson as Piaton? :D ~Witz > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan'l Danehy-Oakes [mailto:danldo at gmail.com] > No - Rowan Atkinson for Incus. >>>> I can't think of anyone that can play smarmy authority figures better >>>> than Tim Curry. He may be a bit too tall though --- ### John Smith *15 Jan 2009, 18:17 · follows Son of Witz* Jimmy Stewart would make a great Silk. Just dye his hair blond. Here are some Long Sun nominees. Imagine them at the appropriate age. Chenille? ? ? ? ? ???? Raquel Welch Maytera Mint?? ??? Grace Kelly Maytera Marble??? Kathy Bates Maytera Rose? ??? Bette Davis Crane????????????????? Edward G. Robinson Blood???????????????? James Gandolfini Musk???????????????? Sal Mineo Auk??????????????????? Anthony Quinn Hyacinth??????????? Elizabeth Taylor Quetzal??????????? Mr. Burns from The Simpsons Oreb????? Heckle and/or Jeckle Best wishes, Jack --- ### brunians at brunians.org *15 Jan 2009, 18:26 · in reply to hammstu at sbcglobal.net* Linda Hunt as Father Inire. . > I've gotta go for Pamela Anderson as Jolenta...the fakest of them > all...and if Keanu Reeves is involved in ANY way I'm gonna puke.. > I'm telling you... A "Harvey" era Jimmy Stewart as Silk in the sequel and > a young, tortured Charlton Heston as Severian > Danny DeVito as Patera Quetzl????...or Fathher Inire???...or Billy Barty > as both??? > Sent from my BlackBerry? smartphone with SprintSpeed > > -----Original Message----- > From: Adam Thornton > > Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:13:11 --- ### hammstu at sbcglobal.net *15 Jan 2009, 18:30 · follows brunians at brunians.org* Shouldn't Baldanders look like a giant Super Mario on steroids??? I know an english bloke/giant from the midlands who would foot the bill... ------Original Message------ From: Son of Witz Sender: urth-bounces at lists.urth.net To: The Urth Mailing List ReplyTo: The Urth Mailing List Sent: Jan 15, 2009 9:38 AM Subject: Re: (urth) Fantasy Casting Thread this is fun. I like Rowan Atkinson for Incus. Tim Curry would be good for Patera Ramora. I really like the Jimmy Stewart as Silk suggestion. Redford isn't bad either, though I think he's too square jawed. I could see Liam Neeson as well. I really like the Isabella Rosselini / Thechla suggestion. I read Jolenta as Marylin as well. But the Anna Nicole Smith suggestion is pretty apt, because there needs to be something annoyingly phony about Jolenta's looks. Spamela? no thanks. I don't think I would have ever thought of Depp as Severian, mostly because he's short, but his face fits the description well. thin nose, high cheekbones, deepset eyes, pointed chin with no cleft, or the barest hint. I'm still stuck on Christian Bale though, (sans BatBale voice, yuk!) John Hurt as Autarch? too manly. He's described as having the face of a 40 year old woman. Needs to be somebody very androgynous. I'd thought of Bowie, but he's still pretty square jawed. Lesli Jordan was a good suggestion. Actually, an elder John Hurt looks almost exactly like I pictured Jonas. a 30's-ish Brando is a good call for Baldander's face. I don't see him as fat at all though. My friend suggested that Jaws actor from Moonraker. ha. Jordon, on the list can't help but picture Andre the Giant and Wally Shawn from Princess Bride when he reads. Warren Beatty could be a good Vodalus, true. Rush Limbaugh as Abia, laughing out loud. good one. Alfred Molina as Blood would be perfect. I could dig Anne Hathaway as Thea. William Hurt as Typhon and Mike Tyson as Piaton? :D ~Witz > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan'l Danehy-Oakes [mailto:danldo at gmail.com] > No - Rowan Atkinson for Incus. >>>> I can't think of anyone that can play smarmy authority figures better >>>> than Tim Curry. He may be a bit too tall though --- ### hammstu at sbcglobal.net *15 Jan 2009, 18:30 · in reply to John Smith* Pretty good,pretty good... Not sure about Mint...I picture Anne Heche...or someone not so glamorous Sent from my BlackBerry? smartphone with SprintSpeed -----Original Message----- From: John Smith Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 10:17:17 To: Subject: Re: (urth) Fantasy Casting Thread --- ### John Watkins *15 Jan 2009, 18:32 · in reply to brunians at brunians.org* "be-TRAYed by the GODS!" > On 1/15/09, brunians at brunians.org wrote: > Linda Hunt as Father Inire. > > > > . >> I've gotta go for Pamela Anderson as Jolenta...the fakest of them >> all...and if Keanu Reeves is involved in ANY way I'm gonna puke.. >> I'm telling you... A "Harvey" era Jimmy Stewart as Silk in the sequel and >> a young, tortured Charlton Heston as Severian >> Danny DeVito as Patera Quetzl????...or Fathher Inire???...or Billy Barty >> as both??? >> Sent from my BlackBerry(R) smartphone with SprintSpeed >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Adam Thornton >> >> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:13:11 --- ### Adam Thornton *15 Jan 2009, 18:40 · in reply to Son of Witz* > On Jan 15, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Son of Witz wrote: > John Hurt as Autarch? too manly. Did you see the Naked Civil Servant (in which he played Quentin Crisp), or (and this was the one I was thinking of) _I, Claudius_, in in which he played Caligula. He can *do* swishy. Adam --- ### Dan'l Danehy-Oakes *15 Jan 2009, 18:47 · in reply to Adam Thornton* I got your Severian right here. Haley Joel Osmont. No, think about it, seriously. > On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Adam Thornton wrote: > > On Jan 15, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Son of Witz wrote: >> John Hurt as Autarch? too manly. > Did you see the Naked Civil Servant (in which he played Quentin Crisp), or > (and this was the one I was thinking of) _I, Claudius_, in in which he > played Caligula. He can *do* swishy. > > Adam > _______________________________________________ --- ### Son of Witz *15 Jan 2009, 19:12 · follows Dan'l Danehy-Oakes* > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan'l Danehy-Oakes [mailto:danldo at gmail.com] > I got your Severian right here. > > Haley Joel Osmont. > > No, think about it, seriously. You know, I laughed, but it's not such a bad suggestion, once I found an older picture. >>> John Hurt as Autarch? too manly. >> Did you see the Naked Civil Servant (in which he played Quentin Crisp), or >> (and this was the one I was thinking of) _I, Claudius_, in in which he >> played Caligula. He can *do* swishy. >> >> Adam I haven't seen those. probably should. > Jimmy Stewart would make a great Silk. Just dye his hair blond. > > Here are some Long Sun nominees. Imagine them at the appropriate age. > > > Chenille Raquel Welch > Maytera Mint Grace Kelly > Maytera Marble Kathy Bates > Maytera Rose Bette Davis > Crane Edward G. Robinson > Blood James Gandolfini > Musk Sal Mineo > Auk Anthony Quinn > Hyacinth Elizabeth Taylor > Quetzal Mr. Burns from The Simpsons > Oreb Heckle and/or Jeckle > Best wishes, > > Jack Good Suggestions. Raquel Welch, perfect. so are Gandolfini and Mineo. I agree about Grace Kelly being too glamourous. (God how I love to look at her though. probably my all time starlet.) > -----Original Message----- > From: brunians at brunians.org [mailto:brunians at brunians.org] > > Linda Hunt as Father Inire. Great suggestion. unorthodox, but perfect. thanks. ~witz --- ### James Wynn *16 Jan 2009, 03:54 · in reply to brunians at brunians.org* >> No - Rowan Atkinson for Incus. > Linda Hunt as Father Inire. Strange. I was just thinking that Linda Hunt (with big fake Bubba teeth) would be ideal for Incus. :-) --- ### Son of Witz *16 Jan 2009, 19:21 · follows James Wynn* I've got the perfect Severian: Michael Trucco the guy who plays Sam Anders in Battlestar Gallactica. he's just about the right height too. 6'3" just a bit Taller than the Lexicon suggests. He doesn't look super smart, but he's doesn't look like a fool either. --- ### hammstu at sbcglobal.net *16 Jan 2009, 19:24 · follows Son of Witz* Good call The frakin hotel I'm in doesn't get scifi channel so I gotta miss the show tonight ------Original Message------ From: Son of Witz Sender: urth-bounces at lists.urth.net To: The Urth Mailing List ReplyTo: The Urth Mailing List Sent: Jan 16, 2009 11:21 AM Subject: Re: (urth) Fantasy Casting Thread I've got the perfect Severian: Michael Trucco the guy who plays Sam Anders in Battlestar Gallactica. he's just about the right height too. 6'3" just a bit Taller than the Lexicon suggests. He doesn't look super smart, but he's doesn't look like a fool either. --- ### Son of Witz *16 Jan 2009, 23:22 · follows hammstu at sbcglobal.net* > -----Original Message----- > From: hammstu at sbcglobal.net [mailto:hammstu at sbcglobal.net] > Good call > The frakin hotel I'm in doesn't get scifi channel so I gotta miss the show tonight TORTURE!!! I can't watch it either because I just started season 4 dvds last night. I've haven't watched any regularly programmed TV show in my adult life, I'd thought I might change that up for BSG, now that I finally bit the bullet and hooked up cable, but the DVD's came out too late. what a show. I've never seen any film/series that was as much like a long novel. I mean, one that worked as well. anyone here NOT checked it out? It's definitely worthwhile, and that's the only TV plug you'll get from me. I can't help but think, as of Season 4, episode 2, (as far as I've seen) that these guys have read New and Long Suns. some of the themes they've teased at are quite similar. False pantheon, One True God, Cyclicality of creations. These are, as Jordon reminds me, probably just standard SF tropes, but I can't help but think there may be an influence. I also can't help but think, for the same reasons, that Clive Barker read BotNS before writing Imagica. Has anyone here read that? That's one of the only novels I've read multiple times. Absolutely love it. Haven't read much of Barker since then. I figure that must be his masterstroke. ~witz > ------Original Message------ > From: Son of Witz > Sender: urth-bounces at lists.urth.net --- ### Son of Witz *16 Jan 2009, 23:26 · follows Son of Witz* > I also can't help but think, for the same reasons, that Clive Barker read BotNS before writing Imagica. Has anyone here read that? That's one of the only novels I've read multiple times. Absolutely love it. Haven't read much of Barker since then. I figure that must be his masterstroke. > > ~witz OH MY GOD, there's a sequel????????!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?! and 14 years old. How the hell did I never bump into that. jesus. maybe my reread of Moby Dick will have to wait. ~witz --- ### Son of Witz *16 Jan 2009, 23:54 · follows Son of Witz* >> I also can't help but think, for the same reasons, that Clive Barker read BotNS before writing Imagica. Has anyone here read that? That's one of the only novels I've read multiple times. Absolutely love it. Haven't read much of Barker since then. I figure that must be his masterstroke. >> >> ~witz > OH MY GOD, > there's a sequel????????!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?! > and 14 years old. How the hell did I never bump into that. > jesus. maybe my reread of Moby Dick will have to wait. > > ~witz OOPS! It's just that they cut it in two volumes for a paperback edition. (even though my old paperback has the full story) thanks for pointing it out Jordon. (on another board) /Embarrassed. fuck though, Imagica must be my Book of Gold. ~witz3 ---