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  "thread": {
    "id": 5311,
    "subject": "Calde of the Long Sun",
    "messages": 6,
    "voices": 4,
    "first": "2009-01-15T22:19:19+00:00",
    "last": "2009-01-16T18:16:55+00:00"
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      "from": {
        "name": "David Stockhoff",
        "address": "dstockhoff at verizon.net"
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      "date": "2009-01-15T22:19:19+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Calde of the Long Sun",
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          "text": "I don't have a firm opinion on this, but I agree that the below is a very Typhon-like (assuming Pas is Typhon) purpose. Of course, there could have been many Silks to serve several purposes, and I assume there were indeed many Silks (or twins of Silk if not exact clones).\n\nAnd I'll bet someone here can point to a few of them!"
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          "text": "------------------------------\n\nMessage: 6\nDate: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:10:40 -0800\nFrom: \"Dan'l Danehy-Oakes\" <danldo at gmail.com>\nSubject: Re: (urth) Calde of the Long Sun and Learning to Read Wolfe\nTo: \"The Urth Mailing List\" <urth at lists.urth.net>\nMessage-ID:\n\t<1f7617370901141110r2c2614fdi778a708f4a4384df at mail.gmail.com>\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1\n\nOn Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Paul B <pb.stuff at gmail.com> wrote:"
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          "text": "I suppose Kypris could have had it written in Pas' absence, sure.\nWhat do you mean regarding his parentage?  He was a special embryo bought by\nTussah for his own purpose."
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          "text": "  \n\nThere is a strong belief among many on this list that the embryo that grows\nup to be Silk was intended by Pas to be his own body when the _Whorl_\nreached its destination.\n\n-- Dan'l Danehy-Oakes, writer, trainer, bon vivant ----- \nhttp://www.livejournal.com/users/sturgeonslawyer \nhttp://www.danehyoakes.com I once absend-mindedly ordered Three Mile \nIsland dressing in a restaurant and, with great presence of mind, they \nbrought Thousand Island Dressing and a bottle of chili sauce. -- T. \nPratchett ------------------------------"
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      "message_id": "<3e1fa2e90901151753v5dd0869t729abdc4299ce4d1@mail.gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Paul B",
        "address": "pb.stuff at gmail.com"
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      "date": "2009-01-16T01:53:29+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Calde of the Long Sun",
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          "text": "Knowing Typhon (booby-trapped giant golden ring on a giant mountain carved\nin his likeness) he'd keep a close watch on the one single embryo his\ndigital facsimile was intended to inhabit someday, placing it under tighter\nsecurity than most of the stuff in Mainframe.  Typhon seems like a pretty\nvain guy in BotNS.  Those who would suggest that Silk was his intended body\nshould figure out a way to account for how this embryo, likely the most\ntreasured object on the Whorl, fell into the grubby hands of the cargo.\n\nConversely, the embryos in the landers also seem to possess special powers\n(Mucor, Pig, Mora) at least in some cases, but aren't particularly well\nguarded.\n\nAs for the existence of other physical Silks, that seems implausible given\nthe details of Horn's search for one in Short Sun.\n\nPaul"
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          "text": "On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 5:19 PM, David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net>wrote:\nI don't have a firm opinion on this, but I agree that the below is a very\nTyphon-like (assuming Pas is Typhon) purpose. Of course, there could have\nbeen many Silks to serve several purposes, and I assume there were indeed\nmany Silks (or twins of Silk if not exact clones).\n\nAnd I'll bet someone here can point to a few of them!"
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      "from": {
        "name": "John Watkins",
        "address": "john.watkins04 at gmail.com"
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      "date": "2009-01-16T03:04:45+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Calde of the Long Sun",
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          "text": "The Plan gets subverted on several occasions, and there are any number\nof actors rhat might want to avoid a physical Pas."
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          "text": "On 1/15/09, Paul B <pb.stuff at gmail.com> wrote:\nKnowing Typhon (booby-trapped giant golden ring on a giant mountain carved\nin his likeness) he'd keep a close watch on the one single embryo his\ndigital facsimile was intended to inhabit someday, placing it under tighter\nsecurity than most of the stuff in Mainframe.  Typhon seems like a pretty\nvain guy in BotNS.  Those who would suggest that Silk was his intended body\nshould figure out a way to account for how this embryo, likely the most\ntreasured object on the Whorl, fell into the grubby hands of the cargo.\n\nConversely, the embryos in the landers also seem to possess special powers\n(Mucor, Pig, Mora) at least in some cases, but aren't particularly well\nguarded.\n\nAs for the existence of other physical Silks, that seems implausible given\nthe details of Horn's search for one in Short Sun.\n\nPaul\n\nOn Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 5:19 PM, David Stockhoff\n<dstockhoff at verizon.net>wrote:"
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          "text": "I don't have a firm opinion on this, but I agree that the below is a very\nTyphon-like (assuming Pas is Typhon) purpose. Of course, there could have\nbeen many Silks to serve several purposes, and I assume there were indeed\nmany Silks (or twins of Silk if not exact clones).\n\nAnd I'll bet someone here can point to a few of them!"
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      "from": {
        "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes",
        "address": "danldo at gmail.com"
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      "date": "2009-01-16T16:23:22+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Calde of the Long Sun",
      "in_reply_to": "<3e1fa2e90901151753v5dd0869t729abdc4299ce4d1@mail.gmail.com>",
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          "text": "On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Paul B <pb.stuff at gmail.com> wrote:\nThose who would suggest that Silk was his intended body\nshould figure out a way to account for how this embryo, likely the most\ntreasured object on the Whorl, fell into the grubby hands of the cargo."
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          "text": "Pas was dead: to begin with.\n\nHe wouldn't have put anyone else in charge of That Embryo, now\nwould he?"
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          "text": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes, writer, trainer, bon vivant\n-----\nhttp://www.livejournal.com/users/sturgeonslawyer\nhttp://www.danehyoakes.com\n\nI once absend-mindedly ordered Three Mile Island dressing in a\nrestaurant and, with great presence of mind, they brought Thousand\nIsland Dressing and a bottle of chili sauce. -- T. Pratchett"
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      "message_id": "<3e1fa2e90901160935m2868abb8rf406ea181b31c24@mail.gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Paul B",
        "address": "pb.stuff at gmail.com"
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      "date": "2009-01-16T17:35:00+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Calde of the Long Sun",
      "in_reply_to": "<1f7617370901160823h21297623g6c98d3dbe9e69375@mail.gmail.com>",
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          "text": "Well, sure, but he was also dead in the case of the (likely less important)\ngiant golden ring in BotNS.  He sure prevented people from screwing with\nthat one pretty good despite that handicap, didn't he?\n\nPaul"
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          "text": "On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes <danldo at gmail.com>wrote:\nPas was dead: to begin with.\n\nHe wouldn't have put anyone else in charge of That Embryo, now\nwould he?\n\n--\nDan'l Danehy-Oakes, writer, trainer, bon vivant\n-----\nhttp://www.livejournal.com/users/sturgeonslawyer\nhttp://www.danehyoakes.com\n\nI once absend-mindedly ordered Three Mile Island dressing in a\nrestaurant and, with great presence of mind, they brought Thousand\nIsland Dressing and a bottle of chili sauce. -- T. Pratchett\n_______________________________________________"
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      "message_id": "<4970CF17.9010501@verizon.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "David Stockhoff",
        "address": "dstockhoff at verizon.net"
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      "date": "2009-01-16T18:16:55+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Calde of the Long Sun",
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          "text": "Indeed. Or a physical Typhon."
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          "text": "------------------------------\n\nMessage: 3\nDate: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:04:45 -0500\nFrom: John Watkins <john.watkins04 at gmail.com>\nSubject: Re: (urth) Calde of the Long Sun\nTo: The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net>\nMessage-ID:\n\t<93d4039f0901151904w6e553a92s7c22f31e0d23d024 at mail.gmail.com>\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1\n\nThe Plan gets subverted on several occasions, and there are any number\nof actors rhat might want to avoid a physical Pas.\n\n------------------------------"
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