{ "export": { "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/5325", "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 5325, "subject": "As the Whorl Turns", "messages": 6, "voices": 6, "first": "2009-01-26T16:07:06+00:00", "last": "2009-01-27T19:18:20+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "<338614.74880.qm@web180010.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "John Smith", "address": "jsmith2627 at att.net" }, "date": "2009-01-26T16:07:06+00:00", "subject": "(urth) As the Whorl Turns", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Does anybody know which way the Whorl turns?\n\nI had assumed that if you viewed the Whorl from outside looking toward its front, it would turn clockwise. — But it could just as easily be turning counterclockwise. — Any evidence in the books?\n\nBest wishes,\n\nJack" } ] }, { "message_id": "<611723.54591.qm@web37607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "Craig Brewer", "address": "cnbrewer at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2009-01-26T19:42:38+00:00", "subject": "(urth) As the Whorl Turns", "in_reply_to": "<338614.74880.qm@web180010.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I don't have the books with me, but when Silk first looks out of a lander in Lake and sees the short sun rising, are there any tidbits there?\n\n\n\n\n________________________________\nFrom: John Smith \nTo: urth at urth.net\nSent: Monday, January 26, 2009 10:07:06 AM\nSubject: (urth) As the Whorl Turns\n\n\nDoes anybody know which way the Whorl turns?\n \nI had assumed that if you viewed the Whorl from outside looking toward its front, it would turn clockwise. But it could just as easily be turning counterclockwise. Any evidence in the books?\n\nBest wishes,\n\nJack \n\n\n " } ] }, { "message_id": "<273409710901261648q373d559cmb0b05dd28c618ea5@mail.gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "Jordon Flato", "address": "jordonflato at gmail.com" }, "date": "2009-01-27T00:48:29+00:00", "subject": "(urth) As the Whorl Turns", "in_reply_to": "<611723.54591.qm@web37607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "\"looked across a benighted plain of naked rock.\"\n\n\"The somber plain was pitted like the cheeks of a child who had survived the\npox, and far more parren tha tne sheer clifss of the Pilgrims' Way; no tree,\nno flower, no least wed or dot of moss sprouted from its rock.\"\n\n\"The plain of rock had blanched unwatfched, and was streaked with sable....\"\n\n\n\nSo, we have a plain of benighted rock which is pitted like a pox survivor.\nSounds like an asteroid to me." } ] }, { "message_id": "<497F4BE2.9090906@io.com>", "from": { "name": "Jeff Wilson", "address": "jwilson at io.com" }, "date": "2009-01-27T18:01:06+00:00", "subject": "(urth) As the Whorl Turns", "in_reply_to": "<273409710901261648q373d559cmb0b05dd28c618ea5@mail.gmail.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Jordon Flato wrote:\n\"looked across a benighted plain of naked rock.\"\n\n\"The somber plain was pitted like the cheeks of a child who had survived \nthe pox, and far more parren tha tne sheer clifss of the Pilgrims' Way; \nno tree, no flower, no least wed or dot of moss sprouted from its rock.\"\n\n\"The plain of rock had blanched unwatfched, and was streaked with sable....\"\n\n\n\nSo, we have a plain of benighted rock which is pitted like a pox \nsurvivor. Sounds like an asteroid to me." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "This indicates the original asteroid was massive enough to flatten gross \nirregularities into a plainlike smoothness, and of a sufficient scale \nfor its spheroidal curvature to look like a plain at Silk's distance \nfrom it.\n\nThis also means that the outer surface is probably the original, ruling \nout the Cole process (melt the asteroid with solar mirrors, then expand \nit into a bubble with steam)\n\nThe \"sheer cliffs of the Pilgrims' Way\" is also informative about the \ninterior geography.\n\n\nOh, and I found some classic illustrations of asteroid habitats, \ncomplete with axial light sources and unshadowed interiors.\n\nhttp://www.fabiofeminofantascience.org/RETROFUTURE/cole1small.jpg\n\nhttp://www.fabiofeminofantascience.org/RETROFUTURE/coleanalog.jpg" }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com\n< http://www.io.com/~jwilson >" } ] }, { "message_id": "<424131.19446.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "Stuart Hamm", "address": "hammstu at sbcglobal.net" }, "date": "2009-01-27T18:06:07+00:00", "subject": "(urth) As the Whorl Turns", "in_reply_to": "<497F4BE2.9090906@io.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Love the space age tractor..I want one!!\n\n\n???? Mobile — (415) 786-3624\n???? Skype? stuart.hamm\nmyspace.com/stuhamm\n? ??? stuarthamm.net\n\n\n--- On Tue, 1/27/09, Jeff Wilson wrote:\n\nFrom: Jeff Wilson \nSubject: Re: (urth) As the Whorl Turns\nTo: \"The Urth Mailing List\" \nDate: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 10:01 AM" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Jordon Flato wrote:\n\"looked across a benighted plain of naked rock.\"\n\n\"The somber plain was pitted like the cheeks of a child who had\nsurvived the pox, and far more parren tha tne sheer clifss of the Pilgrims'" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Way; no tree, no flower, no least wed or dot of moss sprouted from its\nrock.\"" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "\"The plain of rock had blanched unwatfched, and was streaked with\nsable....\"\n\n\n\nSo, we have a plain of benighted rock which is pitted like a pox survivor." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": " Sounds like an asteroid to me.\n\nThis indicates the original asteroid was massive enough to flatten gross\nirregularities into a plainlike smoothness, and of a sufficient scale for its\nspheroidal curvature to look like a plain at Silk's distance from it.\n\nThis also means that the outer surface is probably the original, ruling out the\nCole process (melt the asteroid with solar mirrors, then expand it into a bubble\nwith steam)\n\nThe \"sheer cliffs of the Pilgrims' Way\" is also informative about\nthe interior geography.\n\n\nOh, and I found some classic illustrations of asteroid habitats, complete with\naxial light sources and unshadowed interiors.\n\nhttp://www.fabiofeminofantascience.org/RETROFUTURE/cole1small.jpg\n\nhttp://www.fabiofeminofantascience.org/RETROFUTURE/coleanalog.jpg\n\n\n-- Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com\n< http://www.io.com/~jwilson >" } ] }, { "message_id": "<20090127191820.GA12532@broggs.org>", "from": { "name": "Jeffrey Brent McBeth", "address": "mcbeth at broggs.org" }, "date": "2009-01-27T19:18:20+00:00", "subject": "(urth) As the Whorl Turns", "in_reply_to": "<497F4BE2.9090906@io.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:01:06PM -0600, Jeff Wilson wrote:\n\nThis indicates the original asteroid was massive enough to flatten gross \nirregularities into a plainlike smoothness, and of a sufficient scale \nfor its spheroidal curvature to look like a plain at Silk's distance \nfrom it." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "You should be able to get a reasonable estimate of the interior\ncross-section of the asteroid from the fire descriptions in BotSS\n\nJeff" }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "----------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\"The man who does not read good books has no advantage over \n the man who cannot read them.\"\n -- Mark Twain\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------" } ] } ] }