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  "thread": {
    "id": 5341,
    "subject": "Morgan/Wolfe",
    "messages": 3,
    "voices": 3,
    "first": "2009-02-13T03:50:11+00:00",
    "last": "2009-02-13T14:25:14+00:00"
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    {
      "message_id": "<DC78473A6BC7449797F55E8220BC9E8D@JISPC>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Joe Smulkstis",
        "address": "jismulkstis at nyc.rr.com"
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      "date": "2009-02-13T03:50:11+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Morgan/Wolfe",
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          "text": "D. Douglas Fratz, reviewing Richard Morgan's \"The Steel Remains\", said:\n\nBut for me the best example of this subgenre can be found in the work of Gene Wolfe, beginning with his Book of the New Sun novels, fantasy novels set in a remote but very imaginable future that have the gritty realism of the best science fiction.\nRichard K. Morgan is clearly mining Wolfe territory, and that is fine territory indeed. \n\nHas anyone here read the book and, if so, is the reviewer's comparison with Wolfe accurate?\n\nThe Kovac's novels didn't strike me as at all Wolfean.\n\nMuskrat"
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      "message_id": "<56F7DE62-9F16-4781-8AB1-DBCC75BD77CF@gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Lane Haygood",
        "address": "lhaygood at gmail.com"
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      "date": "2009-02-13T04:05:37+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Morgan/Wolfe",
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          "text": "I have it on my \"to read\" list.  I'll report in when I'm finished.\n\nBut... I don't think it's going to be Wolfean, at least not from the  \ndescription I read.\n\n-L."
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          "text": "On Feb 12, 2009, at 9:50 PM, Joe Smulkstis wrote:\nD. Douglas Fratz, reviewing Richard Morgan's \"The Steel Remains\",  \nsaid:\n\nBut for me the best example of this subgenre can be found in the  \nwork of Gene Wolfe, beginning with his Book of the New Sun novels,  \nfantasy novels set in a remote but very imaginable future that have  \nthe gritty realism of the best science fiction.\nRichard K. Morgan is clearly mining Wolfe territory, and that is  \nfine territory indeed.\n\nHas anyone here read the book and, if so, is the reviewer's  \ncomparison with Wolfe accurate?\n\nThe Kovac's novels didn't strike me as at all Wolfean.\n\nMuskrat\n\n_______________________________________________"
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      "message_id": "<5c3e602f0902130625o44faf94dnb3f313cc976da72a@mail.gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Rob Thornton",
        "address": "oblate777 at gmail.com"
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      "date": "2009-02-13T14:25:14+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Morgan/Wolfe",
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          "text": "On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Lane Haygood <lhaygood at gmail.com> wrote:\nI have it on my \"to read\" list.  I'll report in when I'm finished.\nBut... I don't think it's going to be Wolfean, at least not from the\ndescription I read.\n-L."
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          "text": "Richard K. Morgan reminded me of cyberpunk. The closest authors to\nWolfe in my mind (in terms of prose style) are Paul Park and John\nCrowley, though I don't think that anyone in F/SF can beat Wolfe in\ncreating unreliable narratives. The only non-SF author that comes to\nmind is Ford Madox Ford (\"The Good Soldier\").\n\nrob t."
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