{ "export": { "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/5386", "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 5386, "subject": "from National Review Online", "messages": 57, "voices": 17, "first": "2009-03-30T16:44:09+00:00", "last": "2009-04-01T19:47:25+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "<49D0F6D9.2010105@colby.edu>", "from": { "name": "Fernando Q. Gouvêa", "address": "fqgouvea at colby.edu" }, "date": "2009-03-30T16:44:09+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Wolfe Man [John J. Miller]\n\nToday's Between the Covers podcast is with Gene Wolfe \n, \nthe legendary science-fiction writer. Here's what /The Encyclopedia of \nScience Fiction/ says about him:\n\n Though neither the most popular nor the most influential author in\n the sf field, [Wolfe] is today quite possibly the most important.\n\nHow's that for an endorsement?\n\nIn our interview, we discuss his new anthology of short stories, the \nbook that he thinks will be his legacy, and the influence of G.K. \nChesterton on his work. At the end, he says this:\n\n I am a conservative. I certainly read William F. Buckley, Jr. with\n delight?I think he mellowed a little too much at the end?He wasn't\n as sharp-edged as he really should have been. Perhaps the same thing\n will happen to me.\n\nListen in — and subscribe to the whole BTC series on iTunes!" }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "=============================================================\nFernando Q. Gouvea\nCarter Professor of Mathematics\nColby College Editor, MAA FOCUS\n5836 Mayflower Hill Editor, MAA Reviews\nWaterville, ME 04901 http://mathdl.maa.org/mathDL/19/\nhttp://www.colby.edu/~fqgouvea\n\nThere are no physicists in the hottest parts of hell, because the \nexistence of a \"hottest part\" implies a temperature difference, and any \nmarginally competent physicist would immediately use this to run a heat \nengine and make some other part of hell comfortably cool. This is \nobviously impossible.\n -- Richard Davisson" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "James Wynn", "address": "crushtv at gmail.com" }, "date": "2009-03-30T16:53:16+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<49D0F6D9.2010105@colby.edu>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Wolfe: \"I think he mellowed a little too much at the end?\nHe wasn't as sharp-edged as he really should have been. Perhaps the same \nthing will happen to me." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "The man is in his 80s. If he plans to mellow, he'd better get on with it.\n:-)\n\nJ.\n\n\n " } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Lane Haygood", "address": "lhaygood at gmail.com" }, "date": "2009-03-30T17:07:55+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<49D0F6D9.2010105@colby.edu>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I just can't bring myself to support the NRO. Is there a transcript \nsomewhere?\n\nSent from my iPhone" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mar 30, 2009, at 11:44 AM, \"Fernando Q. Gouv?a\" \n wrote:\nWolfe Man [John J. Miller]\n\nToday's Between the Covers podcast is with Gene Wolfe ", "from": { "name": "James Wynn", "address": "crushtv at gmail.com" }, "date": "2009-03-30T17:27:50+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I just can't bring myself to support the NRO. Is there a transcript \nsomewhere?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I doubt it, but you could listen to the interview at the site and just not \nclick the ads. Then you are just leeching their bandwidth; hoisting them on \ntheir own petard, so to speak. If you don't allow yourself to be dusted just \na little by evil conservative dandruff, you won't know what you are hating.\n\nBTW It's interesting if not especially enlightening to hear Wolfe's \nsummarization An Evil Guest.\n\nJ\n " } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Son of Witz", "address": "sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org" }, "date": "2009-03-30T17:53:53+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<39744B7F3490462988710A4E4545855C@eMachinePC>", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I love the part where he says \"All those geeks who can't realize Severian is Christ don't get it, LOL\" \n\n~Witz" } ] }, { "message_id": "<44fb53d10903301106j25272296x5ca6982566200707@mail.gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "Matthew Keeley", "address": "matthew.keeley.1 at gmail.com" }, "date": "2009-03-30T18:06:58+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<39744B7F3490462988710A4E4545855C@eMachinePC>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:27 PM, James Wynn wrote:\nI doubt it, but you could listen to the interview at the site and just not\nclick the ads. Then you are just leeching their bandwidth; hoisting them on\ntheir own petard, so to speak. If you don't allow yourself to be dusted just\na little by evil conservative dandruff, you won't know what you are hating." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I can bring myself to visit lefty websites, so surely a short visit to\nthe NRO won't kill anyone?\n\nI love the way this comes up right after the whole \"Politics of Gene\nWolfe\" debacle.\n\n-Matt" } ] }, { "message_id": "<260313.43237.qm@web63905.mail.re1.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "Fred Kiesche", "address": "recursive_loop at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2009-03-30T18:22:03+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<39744B7F3490462988710A4E4545855C@eMachinePC>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "If you download it, you're not \"supporting\" it...you're just (as James put its) \"leeching\" the bandwidth.\n\nRight click (PC), save target as, give it a name, and you have the .mp3 file. If any ads are iembedded in the show, there's always \"fast forward\"...\n\n\nF.P. Kiesche III\n\"Ah Mr. Gibbon, another damned, fat, square book. Always, scribble, scribble, scribble, eh?\" (The Duke of Gloucester, on being presented with Volume 2 of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.) Blogging at The Lensman's Children and TexasBestGrok!\n\n--- On Mon, 3/30/09, James Wynn wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "From: James Wynn \nSubject: Re: (urth) from National Review Online\nTo: \"The Urth Mailing List\" \nDate: Monday, March 30, 2009, 1:27 PM\nI just can't bring myself to support the NRO. Is there a transcript\nsomewhere?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I doubt it, but you could listen to the interview at the site and just not\nclick the ads. Then you are just leeching their bandwidth; hoisting them on\ntheir own petard, so to speak. If you don't allow yourself to be dusted just\na little by evil conservative dandruff, you won't know what you are hating.\n\nBTW It's interesting if not especially enlightening to hear Wolfe's\nsummarization An Evil Guest.\n\nJ" } ] }, { "message_id": "<273409710903301139i1dab15e6ua2f772be53fd8629@mail.gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "Jordon Flato", "address": "jordonflato at gmail.com" }, "date": "2009-03-30T18:39:19+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I totally bought this. Too bad he doesn't say it ;*(" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Son of Witz wrote:\nI love the part where he says \"All those geeks who can't realize Severian\nis Christ don't get it, LOL\"\n\n~Witz\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Son of Witz", "address": "sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org" }, "date": "2009-03-30T18:47:54+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<273409710903301139i1dab15e6ua2f772be53fd8629@mail.gmail.com>", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Gotcha!" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "-----Original Message-----\nFrom: Jordon Flato [mailto:jordonflato at gmail.com]\nSent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:39 AM\nTo: 'The Urth Mailing List'\nSubject: Re: (urth) from National Review Online\n\nI totally bought this. Too bad he doesn't say it ;*(\n\n\nOn Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Son of Witz wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "I love the part where he says \"All those geeks who can't realize Severian\nis Christ don't get it, LOL\"\n\n~Witz\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<76FA1AD4-144F-412C-9059-8A72E53EA3F9@io.com>", "from": { "name": "Adam Thornton", "address": "adam at io.com" }, "date": "2009-03-30T18:49:26+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<273409710903301139i1dab15e6ua2f772be53fd8629@mail.gmail.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mar 30, 2009, at 1:39 PM, Jordon Flato wrote:\nI totally bought this. Too bad he doesn't say it ;*(\n\n\nOn Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Son of Witz ", "from": { "name": "Jordon Flato", "address": "jordonflato at gmail.com" }, "date": "2009-03-30T18:51:16+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<76FA1AD4-144F-412C-9059-8A72E53EA3F9@io.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Hey, stranger things have happened." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Adam Thornton wrote:\n\nOn Mar 30, 2009, at 1:39 PM, Jordon Flato wrote:\n\nI totally bought this. Too bad he doesn't say it ;*(\n\n\nOn Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Son of Witz wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "I love the part where he says \"All those geeks who can't realize Severian\nis Christ don't get it, LOL\"" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Gene Wolfe saying \"LOL\" is no more likely than a Wolfe character saying\n\"STFU.\"\n\nAdam\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<13526.67.142.130.49.1238441012.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2009-03-30T19:23:32+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Wolfe: \"I think he mellowed a little too much at the end" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "He wasn't as sharp-edged as he really should have been. Perhaps the same\nthing will happen to me." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "The man is in his 80s." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Next year he is 80.\n\nPerhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....\n\nQuite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his\nbirthday and throw a big thing for him?\n\n\n\n." } ] }, { "message_id": "<8052.67.142.130.49.1238441389.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2009-03-30T19:29:49+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<39744B7F3490462988710A4E4545855C@eMachinePC>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "I just can't bring myself to support the NRO. Is there a transcript\nsomewhere?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I doubt it, but you could listen to the interview at the site and just not\nclick the ads. Then you are just leeching their bandwidth; hoisting them\non their own petard, so to speak. If you don't allow yourself to be dusted\njust a little by evil conservative dandruff, you won't know what you are\nhating." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I was going to say, that is a remarkably ignorant attitude he's got there,\nbut it isn't remarkable at all, is it? Just ignorant." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "BTW It's interesting if not especially enlightening to hear Wolfe's\nsummarization An Evil Guest." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Looking forward to that....\n\n\n\n." } ] }, { "message_id": "<10002.67.142.130.49.1238442381.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2009-03-30T19:46:21+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<44fb53d10903301106j25272296x5ca6982566200707@mail.gmail.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Matt Keeley writes:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:27 PM, James Wynn wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "I doubt it, but you could listen to the interview at the site and just\nnot click the ads. Then you are just leeching their bandwidth; hoisting\nthem on their own petard, so to speak. If you don't allow yourself to be\ndusted just a little by evil conservative dandruff, you won't know what\nyou are hating." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I can bring myself to visit lefty websites, so surely a short visit to\nthe NRO won't kill anyone?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I love the way this comes up right after the whole \"Politics of Gene\nWolfe\" debacle." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I thought that was a very lively conversation. I certainly did learn a lot\nfrom it.\n\n\n\n." } ] }, { "message_id": "<186673.14129.qm@web32401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "don doggett", "address": "kingwukong at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2009-03-30T23:19:39+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<10002.67.142.130.49.1238442381.squirrel@brunians.org>", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Doggerel\nwww.don-doggett.blogspot.com" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "--- On Mon, 3/30/09, Adam Thornton wrote:\nGene Wolfe saying \"LOL\" is no more\nlikely than a Wolfe character saying\n\"STFU.\"" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Yeah, WTF? I can't even begin to tell you how wholly satisfying it was to put those four letters in the subject line. Keeping it relevant to Wolfe and trying to answer a question that's been bothering me about AEG was just cake.\n\nDon\n\n\n " } ] }, { "message_id": "<49D1DDB1.2070109@io.com>", "from": { "name": "Jeff Wilson", "address": "jwilson at io.com" }, "date": "2009-03-31T09:09:05+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<13526.67.142.130.49.1238441012.squirrel@brunians.org>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "brunians at brunians.org wrote:\nWolfe: \"I think he mellowed a little too much at the end?\nHe wasn't as sharp-edged as he really should have been. Perhaps the same\nthing will happen to me." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "The man is in his 80s." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Next year he is 80." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Most sources I can locate list his birthday as May 7, 1931." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....\n\nQuite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his\nbirthday and throw a big thing for him?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor." }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com\n< http://www.io.com/~jwilson >" } ] }, { "message_id": "<2135.67.142.130.49.1238494655.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2009-03-31T10:17:35+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<49D1DDB1.2070109@io.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "brunians at brunians.org wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "Wolfe: \"I think he mellowed a little too much at the end" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "He wasn't as sharp-edged as he really should have been. Perhaps the\nsame thing will happen to me." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "The man is in his 80s." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Next year he is 80." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Most sources I can locate list his birthday as May 7, 1931." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute...." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Quite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his\nbirthday and throw a big thing for him?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Oh, I m sure we would all be on our best behavior. If you don't feel that\nyou can control yourself, by all means, stay away.\n\nI've done this kind of thing before, it can work out well.\n\n\n\n\n." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Adam Thornton", "address": "adam at io.com" }, "date": "2009-03-31T14:18:11+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<49D1DDB1.2070109@io.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:\nPerhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....\nQuite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his\nbirthday and throw a big thing for him?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I was thinking a sofa, or maybe a fridge.\n\nAdam" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Allan Anderson", "address": "rubel at goosemoon.org" }, "date": "2009-03-31T14:58:37+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<49D0F6D9.2010105@colby.edu>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Thanks, Fernando -- it's always fun to hear a voice and have an author \nbecome a bit more of a real person in my mind!\n\nMy favorite part was how he described Chesterson. I've only read _The \nMan Who Was Thursday_, but the lyrical yet sharp and insightful style \nof that book really clicks with what Wolfe says." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mar 30, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Fernando Q. Gouv?a wrote:\nWolfe Man [John J. Miller]\n\nToday's Between the Covers podcast is with Gene Wolfe ", "from": { "name": "Craig Brewer", "address": "cnbrewer at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2009-03-31T15:24:12+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Definitely thanks for the heads up on this!\n\nPersonally, I thought it was very typical Wolfe on his answer to the conservative question. Give a straight answer and follow it up with qualifications that ask more questions. What parts of Buckley, exactly, counted as mellowing? Why was he seemingly not perfectly fond of being a conservative in Buckley's image? And why back out of the question with a dismissive, \"Oh, you talk about conservatism all the time, you don't want to hear about that.\"\n\nAnd was his surprise that BotNS is so popular just modesty? He's said before that he's surprised that people stick with a torturer as a protagonist for so long, but certainly by now, his reputation lets it be known that isn't \"just\" a torturer, no?\n\n\n\n " } ] }, { "message_id": "<13588.67.142.130.32.1238514713.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2009-03-31T15:51:53+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I'm fairly sure that Gene Wolfe has all of the household furniture that he\nneeds.\n\nI was thinking more of like a dinner in his honor and perhaps people\nthanking him for writing all of this great stuff that he has written and\nmaybe other things, the idea being that they are pleasurable things for\nhim and not anything that requires him to do any work or anything besides\nshow up.\n\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....\nQuite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his\nbirthday and throw a big thing for him?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I was thinking a sofa, or maybe a fridge.\n\nAdam\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<537457.31323.qm@web37601.mail.mud.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "Craig Brewer", "address": "cnbrewer at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2009-03-31T15:54:22+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<13588.67.142.130.32.1238514713.squirrel@brunians.org>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Since I already live in the neighborhood, I'd be more than willing to attend and help organize if we get enough people thinking it would be a good thing.\n\n\n\n----- Original Message ----\nFrom: \"brunians at brunians.org\" \nTo: The Urth Mailing List \nSent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:51:53 AM\nSubject: Re: (urth) from National Review Online\n\nI'm fairly sure that Gene Wolfe has all of the household furniture that he\nneeds.\n\nI was thinking more of like a dinner in his honor and perhaps people\nthanking him for writing all of this great stuff that he has written and\nmaybe other things, the idea being that they are pleasurable things for\nhim and not anything that requires him to do any work or anything besides\nshow up.\n\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....\nQuite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his\nbirthday and throw a big thing for him?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I was thinking a sofa, or maybe a fridge.\n\nAdam\n_______________________________________________\nUrth Mailing List\nTo post, write urth at urth.net\nSubscription/information: http://www.urth.net" } ] }, { "message_id": "<1f7617370903310854n5e556331r27d711192e296247@mail.gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes", "address": "danldo at gmail.com" }, "date": "2009-03-31T15:54:46+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<537457.31323.qm@web37601.mail.mud.yahoo.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Perhaps a festschrift would be more appropriate?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Craig Brewer wrote:\n\nSince I already live in the neighborhood, I'd be more than willing to attend and help organize if we get enough people thinking it would be a good thing.\n\n\n\n----- Original Message ----\nFrom: \"brunians at brunians.org\" \nTo: The Urth Mailing List \nSent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:51:53 AM\nSubject: Re: (urth) from National Review Online\n\nI'm fairly sure that Gene Wolfe has all of the household furniture that he\nneeds.\n\nI was thinking more of like a dinner in his honor and perhaps people\nthanking him for writing all of this great stuff that he has written and\nmaybe other things, the idea being that they are pleasurable things for\nhim and not anything that requires him to do any work or anything besides\nshow up.\n\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....\nQuite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his\nbirthday and throw a big thing for him?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "I was thinking a sofa, or maybe a fridge.\n\nAdam\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<978688.33574.qm@web37601.mail.mud.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "Craig Brewer", "address": "cnbrewer at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2009-03-31T15:56:21+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<1f7617370903310854n5e556331r27d711192e296247@mail.gmail.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Ah, now that's an even more promising idea, methinks.\n\n\n\n----- Original Message ----\nFrom: Dan'l Danehy-Oakes \nTo: The Urth Mailing List \nSent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:54:46 AM\nSubject: Re: (urth) from National Review Online\n\nPerhaps a festschrift would be more appropriate?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Craig Brewer wrote:\n\nSince I already live in the neighborhood, I'd be more than willing to attend and help organize if we get enough people thinking it would be a good thing.\n\n\n\n----- Original Message ----\nFrom: \"brunians at brunians.org\" \nTo: The Urth Mailing List \nSent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:51:53 AM\nSubject: Re: (urth) from National Review Online\n\nI'm fairly sure that Gene Wolfe has all of the household furniture that he\nneeds.\n\nI was thinking more of like a dinner in his honor and perhaps people\nthanking him for writing all of this great stuff that he has written and\nmaybe other things, the idea being that they are pleasurable things for\nhim and not anything that requires him to do any work or anything besides\nshow up.\n\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....\nQuite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his\nbirthday and throw a big thing for him?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "I was thinking a sofa, or maybe a fridge.\n\nAdam\n_______________________________________________\nUrth Mailing List\nTo post, write urth at urth.net\nSubscription/information: http://www.urth.net" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "_______________________________________________\nUrth Mailing List\nTo post, write urth at urth.net\nSubscription/information: http://www.urth.net\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________\nUrth Mailing List\nTo post, write urth at urth.net\nSubscription/information: http://www.urth.net" }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes" } ] }, { "message_id": "<420D06BB-C3C5-4A91-8739-57BA698797AB@io.com>", "from": { "name": "Adam Thornton", "address": "adam at io.com" }, "date": "2009-03-31T16:16:29+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<13588.67.142.130.32.1238514713.squirrel@brunians.org>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mar 31, 2009, at 10:51 AM, brunians at brunians.org wrote:\nI'm fairly sure that Gene Wolfe has all of the household furniture \nthat he\nneeds.\n\nI was thinking more of like a dinner in his honor and perhaps people\nthanking him for writing all of this great stuff that he has written \nand\nmaybe other things, the idea being that they are pleasurable things \nfor\nhim and not anything that requires him to do any work or anything \nbesides\nshow up." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....\nQuite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his\nbirthday and throw a big thing for him?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his \nhonor." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "I was thinking a sofa, or maybe a fridge." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Oh, I wasn't going to GIVE them to him. Just throw them. Certainly \nnot AT him!\n\nAdam" } ] }, { "message_id": "<20090331165803.ZADE21373.eastrmmtao103.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net>", "from": { "name": "James B. Jordan", "address": "jbjordan4 at cox.net" }, "date": "2009-03-31T16:58:02+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<13588.67.142.130.32.1238514713.squirrel@brunians.org>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Why not organize a festschrift, and have 15-20 authors write short \nstores in his honor?\n\nNutria" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "At 10:51 AM 3/31/2009, you wrote:\nI'm fairly sure that Gene Wolfe has all of the household furniture that he\nneeds.\n\nI was thinking more of like a dinner in his honor and perhaps people\nthanking him for writing all of this great stuff that he has written and\nmaybe other things, the idea being that they are pleasurable things for\nhim and not anything that requires him to do any work or anything besides\nshow up.\n\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....\nQuite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his\nbirthday and throw a big thing for him?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "I was thinking a sofa, or maybe a fridge.\n\nAdam\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<25802.40668.qm@web50712.mail.re2.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "Jerry Friedman", "address": "jerry_friedman at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2009-03-31T16:58:22+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<1f7617370903310854n5e556331r27d711192e296247@mail.gmail.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Or equally appropriate. Indeed, a dedication copy of a\nfestschrift could easily be presented at the kind of dinner\nJosh has in mind.\n\nI imagine Wolfe's children may be planning something, in\nwhich case people would need to join or coordinate with\nthem.\n\nJerry Friedman" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "--- On Tue, 3/31/09, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:\nFrom: Dan'l Danehy-Oakes \nSubject: Re: (urth) from National Review Online\nTo: \"The Urth Mailing List\" \nDate: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 9:54 AM\nPerhaps a festschrift would be more appropriate?\n\nOn Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Craig Brewer\n wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Since I already live in the neighborhood, I'd be\nmore than willing to attend and help organize if we get\nenough people thinking it would be a good thing.\n\n\n\n----- Original Message ----\nFrom: \"brunians at brunians.org\"" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "\nTo: The Urth Mailing List \nSent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:51:53 AM\nSubject: Re: (urth) from National Review Online" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "I'm fairly sure that Gene Wolfe has all of the\nhousehold furniture that he\nneeds.\n\nI was thinking more of like a dinner in his honor and\nperhaps people\nthanking him for writing all of this great stuff that\nhe has written and\nmaybe other things, the idea being that they are\npleasurable things for\nhim and not anything that requires him to do any work\nor anything besides\nshow up.\n\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 5, "text": "Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington\nbearing tribute....\nQuite seriously, why don't we get a\nhotel there sometime around his\nbirthday and throw a big thing for him?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a\nbrawl thrown in his honor." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "I was thinking a sofa, or maybe a fridge.\n\nAdam\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<5384.72.171.0.145.1238520248.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2009-03-31T17:24:08+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<537457.31323.qm@web37601.mail.mud.yahoo.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Very excellent.\n\nSince we have more than two years to plan this out, I don't see any reason\nwhy it shouldn't be a success.\n\n\n\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Since I already live in the neighborhood, I'd be more than willing to\nattend and help organize if we get enough people thinking it would be a\ngood thing.\n\n\n\n----- Original Message ----\nFrom: \"brunians at brunians.org\" \nTo: The Urth Mailing List \nSent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:51:53 AM\nSubject: Re: (urth) from National Review Online\n\nI'm fairly sure that Gene Wolfe has all of the household furniture that he\nneeds.\n\nI was thinking more of like a dinner in his honor and perhaps people\nthanking him for writing all of this great stuff that he has written and\nmaybe other things, the idea being that they are pleasurable things for\nhim and not anything that requires him to do any work or anything besides\nshow up.\n\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....\nQuite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his\nbirthday and throw a big thing for him?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "I was thinking a sofa, or maybe a fridge.\n\nAdam\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<9495.72.171.0.145.1238520332.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2009-03-31T17:25:32+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<1f7617370903310854n5e556331r27d711192e296247@mail.gmail.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Is that what it is called?\n\nI like the sound of that!\n\n\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Perhaps a festschrift would be more appropriate?\n\nOn Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Craig Brewer wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Since I already live in the neighborhood, I'd be more than willing to\nattend and help organize if we get enough people thinking it would be a\ngood thing.\n\n\n\n----- Original Message ----\nFrom: \"brunians at brunians.org\" \nTo: The Urth Mailing List \nSent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:51:53 AM\nSubject: Re: (urth) from National Review Online\n\nI'm fairly sure that Gene Wolfe has all of the household furniture that\nhe\nneeds.\n\nI was thinking more of like a dinner in his honor and perhaps people\nthanking him for writing all of this great stuff that he has written and\nmaybe other things, the idea being that they are pleasurable things for\nhim and not anything that requires him to do any work or anything\nbesides\nshow up.\n\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 5, "text": "Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....\nQuite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his\nbirthday and throw a big thing for him?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "I was thinking a sofa, or maybe a fridge.\n\nAdam\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<7861.72.171.0.145.1238520452.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2009-03-31T17:27:32+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<978688.33574.qm@web37601.mail.mud.yahoo.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "What specifically is a festschrift besides 'a celebration of the writing'\nas I translate it from the German? Is there a specialized meaning of the\nterm that I am unaware of (as I am unaware of most things)?\n\n\n\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Ah, now that's an even more promising idea, methinks.\n\n\n\n----- Original Message ----\nFrom: Dan'l Danehy-Oakes \nTo: The Urth Mailing List \nSent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:54:46 AM\nSubject: Re: (urth) from National Review Online\n\nPerhaps a festschrift would be more appropriate?\n\nOn Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Craig Brewer wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Since I already live in the neighborhood, I'd be more than willing to\nattend and help organize if we get enough people thinking it would be a\ngood thing.\n\n\n\n----- Original Message ----\nFrom: \"brunians at brunians.org\" \nTo: The Urth Mailing List \nSent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:51:53 AM\nSubject: Re: (urth) from National Review Online\n\nI'm fairly sure that Gene Wolfe has all of the household furniture that\nhe\nneeds.\n\nI was thinking more of like a dinner in his honor and perhaps people\nthanking him for writing all of this great stuff that he has written and\nmaybe other things, the idea being that they are pleasurable things for\nhim and not anything that requires him to do any work or anything\nbesides\nshow up.\n\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 5, "text": "Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....\nQuite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his\nbirthday and throw a big thing for him?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "I was thinking a sofa, or maybe a fridge.\n\nAdam\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<1f7617370903311029x2dee4dddh2afa2a38edf1cf34@mail.gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes", "address": "danldo at gmail.com" }, "date": "2009-03-31T17:29:27+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<7861.72.171.0.145.1238520452.squirrel@brunians.org>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "A festschrift is a book -- usually of essays -- \"presented to\" someone\nto celebrate their life and work. This is an academic tradition for a\nhighly-respected colleague.\n\nIn the case of Wolfe, it would make sense if it was stories, or a\nmixture of stories and essays." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:27 AM, wrote:\nWhat specifically is a festschrift besides 'a celebration of the writing'\nas I translate it from the German? Is there a specialized meaning of the\nterm that I am unaware of (as I am unaware of most things)?\n\n\n\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Ah, now that's an even more promising idea, methinks.\n\n\n\n----- Original Message ----\nFrom: Dan'l Danehy-Oakes \nTo: The Urth Mailing List \nSent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:54:46 AM\nSubject: Re: (urth) from National Review Online\n\nPerhaps a festschrift would be more appropriate?\n\nOn Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Craig Brewer wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Since I already live in the neighborhood, I'd be more than willing to\nattend and help organize if we get enough people thinking it would be a\ngood thing.\n\n\n\n----- Original Message ----\nFrom: \"brunians at brunians.org\" \nTo: The Urth Mailing List \nSent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:51:53 AM\nSubject: Re: (urth) from National Review Online\n\nI'm fairly sure that Gene Wolfe has all of the household furniture that\nhe\nneeds.\n\nI was thinking more of like a dinner in his honor and perhaps people\nthanking him for writing all of this great stuff that he has written and\nmaybe other things, the idea being that they are pleasurable things for\nhim and not anything that requires him to do any work or anything\nbesides\nshow up.\n\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 6, "text": "Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....\nQuite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his\nbirthday and throw a big thing for him?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 5, "text": "I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "I was thinking a sofa, or maybe a fridge.\n\nAdam\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<11046.72.171.0.145.1238520576.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2009-03-31T17:29:36+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<420D06BB-C3C5-4A91-8739-57BA698797AB@io.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "I was thinking a sofa, or maybe a fridge." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "I'm fairly sure that Gene Wolfe has all of the household furniture\nthat he needs." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "I was thinking more of like a dinner in his honor and perhaps people\nthanking him for writing all of this great stuff that he has written\nand maybe other things, the idea being that they are pleasurable things\nfor him and not anything that requires him to do any work or anything\nbesides show up." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his\nhonor." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Oh, I wasn't going to GIVE them to him. Just throw them. Certainly\nnot AT him!" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Wow, you're strong! Unless we're talking doll furniture or something....\n\n\n\n." } ] }, { "message_id": "<1314.72.171.0.145.1238520875.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2009-03-31T17:34:35+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<20090331165803.ZADE21373.eastrmmtao103.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Well, I don't know anything about doing this. I know I could organize\nlogistics for a dinner/conference. I am wary of committing myself to large\namounts of work that I am unfamiliar with.\n\nBesides, this is Gene Wolfe we are talking about: I am sure that both pros\nand fans are going to be doing similar things already.\n\nThat's why not from my end, anyway.\n\n\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Why not organize a festschrift, and have 15-20 authors write short\nstores in his honor?\n\nNutria\n\nAt 10:51 AM 3/31/2009, you wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "I'm fairly sure that Gene Wolfe has all of the household furniture that\nhe\nneeds.\n\nI was thinking more of like a dinner in his honor and perhaps people\nthanking him for writing all of this great stuff that he has written and\nmaybe other things, the idea being that they are pleasurable things for\nhim and not anything that requires him to do any work or anything besides\nshow up.\n\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 5, "text": "Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....\nQuite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his\nbirthday and throw a big thing for him?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "I was thinking a sofa, or maybe a fridge.\n\nAdam\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<11270.72.171.0.145.1238521018.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2009-03-31T17:36:58+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<25802.40668.qm@web50712.mail.re2.yahoo.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Absolutely.\n\nAs someone pointed out to me in private mail, it would be absolutely\nrequired that we had the man's permission for me to be willing to do it.\nSo it might be appropriate for those of you who have direct contact with\nhim to see what plans might be for us to conform to.\n\n\n\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Or equally appropriate. Indeed, a dedication copy of a\nfestschrift could easily be presented at the kind of dinner\nJosh has in mind.\n\nI imagine Wolfe's children may be planning something, in\nwhich case people would need to join or coordinate with\nthem.\n\nJerry Friedman\n\n\n--- On Tue, 3/31/09, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "From: Dan'l Danehy-Oakes \nSubject: Re: (urth) from National Review Online\nTo: \"The Urth Mailing List\" \nDate: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 9:54 AM\nPerhaps a festschrift would be more appropriate?\n\nOn Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Craig Brewer\n wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Since I already live in the neighborhood, I'd be\nmore than willing to attend and help organize if we get\nenough people thinking it would be a good thing.\n\n\n\n----- Original Message ----\nFrom: \"brunians at brunians.org\"" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "\nTo: The Urth Mailing List \nSent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:51:53 AM\nSubject: Re: (urth) from National Review Online" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "I'm fairly sure that Gene Wolfe has all of the\nhousehold furniture that he\nneeds.\n\nI was thinking more of like a dinner in his honor and\nperhaps people\nthanking him for writing all of this great stuff that\nhe has written and\nmaybe other things, the idea being that they are\npleasurable things for\nhim and not anything that requires him to do any work\nor anything besides\nshow up.\n\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 6, "text": "Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington\nbearing tribute....\nQuite seriously, why don't we get a\nhotel there sometime around his\nbirthday and throw a big thing for him?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 5, "text": "I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a\nbrawl thrown in his honor." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "I was thinking a sofa, or maybe a fridge.\n\nAdam\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<14444.72.171.0.145.1238521093.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2009-03-31T17:38:13+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<1f7617370903311029x2dee4dddh2afa2a38edf1cf34@mail.gmail.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I like Jerry Friedman's take on this....\n\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "A festschrift is a book -- usually of essays -- \"presented to\" someone\nto celebrate their life and work. This is an academic tradition for a\nhighly-respected colleague.\n\nIn the case of Wolfe, it would make sense if it was stories, or a\nmixture of stories and essays.\n\nOn Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:27 AM, wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "What specifically is a festschrift besides 'a celebration of the\nwriting'\nas I translate it from the German? Is there a specialized meaning of the\nterm that I am unaware of (as I am unaware of most things)?\n\n\n\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Ah, now that's an even more promising idea, methinks.\n\n\n\n----- Original Message ----\nFrom: Dan'l Danehy-Oakes \nTo: The Urth Mailing List \nSent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:54:46 AM\nSubject: Re: (urth) from National Review Online\n\nPerhaps a festschrift would be more appropriate?\n\nOn Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Craig Brewer \nwrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "Since I already live in the neighborhood, I'd be more than willing to\nattend and help organize if we get enough people thinking it would be\na\ngood thing.\n\n\n\n----- Original Message ----\nFrom: \"brunians at brunians.org\" \nTo: The Urth Mailing List \nSent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:51:53 AM\nSubject: Re: (urth) from National Review Online\n\nI'm fairly sure that Gene Wolfe has all of the household furniture\nthat\nhe\nneeds.\n\nI was thinking more of like a dinner in his honor and perhaps people\nthanking him for writing all of this great stuff that he has written\nand\nmaybe other things, the idea being that they are pleasurable things\nfor\nhim and not anything that requires him to do any work or anything\nbesides\nshow up.\n\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 5, "text": "On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 7, "text": "Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....\nQuite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his\nbirthday and throw a big thing for him?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 6, "text": "I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his\nhonor." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 5, "text": "I was thinking a sofa, or maybe a fridge.\n\nAdam\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<49D262F5.1080308@io.com>", "from": { "name": "Jeff Wilson", "address": "jwilson at io.com" }, "date": "2009-03-31T18:37:41+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<2135.67.142.130.49.1238494655.squirrel@brunians.org>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "brunians at brunians.org wrote:\nbrunians at brunians.org wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 5, "text": "Wolfe: \"I think he mellowed a little too much at the end?\nHe wasn't as sharp-edged as he really should have been. Perhaps the\nsame thing will happen to me." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "The man is in his 80s." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Next year he is 80." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Most sources I can locate list his birthday as May 7, 1931." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute...." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Quite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his\nbirthday and throw a big thing for him?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Oh, I m sure we would all be on our best behavior. If you don't feel that\nyou can control yourself, by all means, stay away.\n\nI've done this kind of thing before, it can work out well." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "It's not me I'm worried about, but I can all too easily envision some \nheated discussions and spilled drinks leading to an exchange of \nassaults, both real and imagined." }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com\n< http://www.io.com/~jwilson >" } ] }, { "message_id": "<5849.67.142.130.25.1238526201.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2009-03-31T19:03:21+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<49D262F5.1080308@io.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "Perhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute...." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "Quite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his\nbirthday and throw a big thing for him?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "I doubt Mr Wolfe would appreciate having a brawl thrown in his honor." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Oh, I m sure we would all be on our best behavior. If you don't feel\nthat you can control yourself, by all means, stay away." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "I've done this kind of thing before, it can work out well." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "It's not me I'm worried about," }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "No one expects you to control the behavior of anyone except yourself." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": " but I can all too easily envision some\nheated discussions and spilled drinks leading to an exchange of\nassaults, both real and imagined." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "As I say, gaurantee your own behavior and let others do the same for theirs.\n\n\n\n\n." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Adam Thornton", "address": "adam at io.com" }, "date": "2009-03-31T19:18:54+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<11046.72.171.0.145.1238520576.squirrel@brunians.org>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mar 31, 2009, at 12:29 PM, brunians at brunians.org wrote:\nWow, you're strong! Unless we're talking doll furniture or \nsomething...." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I figured I'd have help. It was supposed to be a get-together, right?\n\nAdam" } ] }, { "message_id": "<5396.67.142.130.28.1238533130.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2009-03-31T20:58:50+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mar 31, 2009, at 12:29 PM, brunians at brunians.org wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Wow, you're strong! Unless we're talking doll furniture or\nsomething...." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I figured I'd have help. It was supposed to be a get-together, right?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I'll bring my trebuchet.\n\n\n\n\n." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Rebecca Bushong-Taylor", "address": "rebeccabt01 at gmail.com" }, "date": "2009-04-01T04:34:21+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<13526.67.142.130.49.1238441012.squirrel@brunians.org>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I checked with the Source. Gene is 77." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 2:23 PM, wrote:\nWolfe: \"I think he mellowed a little too much at the end?\nHe wasn't as sharp-edged as he really should have been. Perhaps the same\nthing will happen to me." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "The man is in his 80s." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Next year he is 80.\n\nPerhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....\n\nQuite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his\nbirthday and throw a big thing for him?\n\n\n\n.\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<8802.67.142.130.32.1238563312.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2009-04-01T05:21:52+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "7 May, right?\n\nSo this year he will be 78, in 2010 he will be 79, in 2011 he will be 80.\n\nDo you think we'd get permission to throw this here shindig? The timing is\nexcellent.\n\n\n\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I checked with the Source. Gene is 77.\n\nOn Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 2:23 PM, wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "Wolfe: \"I think he mellowed a little too much at the end" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "He wasn't as sharp-edged as he really should have been. Perhaps the\nsame\nthing will happen to me." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "The man is in his 80s." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Next year he is 80.\n\nPerhaps we should descend upon Barrington bearing tribute....\n\nQuite seriously, why don't we get a hotel there sometime around his\nbirthday and throw a big thing for him?\n\n\n\n.\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Son of Witz", "address": "sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org" }, "date": "2009-04-01T14:11:57+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<49D262F5.1080308@io.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mar 31, 2009, at 11:37 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:\nIt's not me I'm worried about, but I can all too easily envision \nsome heated discussions and spilled drinks leading to an exchange of \nassaults, both real and imagined." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Guaranteed these discussions wouldn't get so pitched in real life face \nto face.\nFaceless internet communication makes it much harder to recognize a \njoke, or when you've gone too far, or..." } ] }, { "message_id": "<7786.67.142.130.39.1238600810.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2009-04-01T15:46:50+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Sometimes I will meet people who know me from online, and occasionally\nthey will try to get me to talk about some of the more controversial stuff\nthat I do talk about. It is very easy to not do so, and even to tell them\nwhy I am not doing so.\n\nIf they really insist, I find that the best thing to do is to say: \"You\nknow what? You are absolutely right!\", change the subject and do not go\nback to the old subject whatever the temptation.\n\n\n\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mar 31, 2009, at 11:37 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "It's not me I'm worried about, but I can all too easily envision\nsome heated discussions and spilled drinks leading to an exchange of\nassaults, both real and imagined." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Guaranteed these discussions wouldn't get so pitched in real life face\nto face.\nFaceless internet communication makes it much harder to recognize a\njoke, or when you've gone too far, or...\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<49D3919A.9090300@io.com>", "from": { "name": "Jeff Wilson", "address": "jwilson at io.com" }, "date": "2009-04-01T16:08:58+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Son of Witz wrote:\n\nOn Mar 31, 2009, at 11:37 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "It's not me I'm worried about, but I can all too easily envision some \nheated discussions and spilled drinks leading to an exchange of \nassaults, both real and imagined." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Guaranteed these discussions wouldn't get so pitched in real life face \nto face.\nFaceless internet communication makes it much harder to recognize a \njoke, or when you've gone too far, or..." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "God bless you for your faith in our fellows, Witz, but I've been to too \nmany meet-ups where people started showing their ass to have your \nconfidence.\n\nI believe it is like the same-birthday exercise; any one person has less \nthan a 1% chance of sharing a birthday with any other random person, but \nin a group of twenty the odds are better than 40%." }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com\n< http://www.io.com/~jwilson >" } ] }, { "message_id": "<4971.67.142.130.39.1238603883.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2009-04-01T16:38:03+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<49D3919A.9090300@io.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Really, this doesn't come up with me.\n\nI must be getting old.\n\n\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Son of Witz wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "On Mar 31, 2009, at 11:37 AM, Jeff Wilson wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "It's not me I'm worried about, but I can all too easily envision some\nheated discussions and spilled drinks leading to an exchange of\nassaults, both real and imagined." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Guaranteed these discussions wouldn't get so pitched in real life face\nto face.\nFaceless internet communication makes it much harder to recognize a\njoke, or when you've gone too far, or..." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "God bless you for your faith in our fellows, Witz, but I've been to too\nmany meet-ups where people started showing their ass to have your\nconfidence.\n\nI believe it is like the same-birthday exercise; any one person has less\nthan a 1% chance of sharing a birthday with any other random person, but\nin a group of twenty the odds are better than 40%.\n\n--\nJeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com\n< http://www.io.com/~jwilson >\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<49D3B821.3010601@io.com>", "from": { "name": "Jeff Wilson", "address": "jwilson at io.com" }, "date": "2009-04-01T18:53:21+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<4971.67.142.130.39.1238603883.squirrel@brunians.org>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "brunians at brunians.org wrote:\nReally, this doesn't come up with me.\n\nI must be getting old." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "It's not you I'm particularly worried about, either. But suppose Harlan \nEllison shows up?" }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com\n< http://www.io.com/~jwilson >" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Adam Thornton", "address": "adam at io.com" }, "date": "2009-04-01T18:55:10+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<49D3B821.3010601@io.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Apr 1, 2009, at 1:53 PM, Jeff Wilson wrote:\nbrunians at brunians.org wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Really, this doesn't come up with me.\nI must be getting old." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "It's not you I'm particularly worried about, either. But suppose \nHarlan Ellison shows up?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I can take him.\n\nAs long as I can keep him at arm's length anyway.\n\nAdam" } ] }, { "message_id": "<49D3B974.4080806@io.com>", "from": { "name": "Jeff Wilson", "address": "jwilson at io.com" }, "date": "2009-04-01T18:59:00+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Adam Thornton wrote:\n\nOn Apr 1, 2009, at 1:53 PM, Jeff Wilson wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "brunians at brunians.org wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Really, this doesn't come up with me.\nI must be getting old." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "It's not you I'm particularly worried about, either. But suppose \nHarlan Ellison shows up?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I can take him.\n\nAs long as I can keep him at arm's length anyway." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I _would_ appreciate such a brawl, but still I don't think Mr Wolfe would." }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com\n< http://www.io.com/~jwilson >" } ] }, { "message_id": "<97D58F8D-EE3E-4711-9A66-339AB03B5CB0@io.com>", "from": { "name": "Adam Thornton", "address": "adam at io.com" }, "date": "2009-04-01T19:00:46+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<49D3B974.4080806@io.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Apr 1, 2009, at 1:59 PM, Jeff Wilson wrote:\nAdam Thornton wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "On Apr 1, 2009, at 1:53 PM, Jeff Wilson wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "brunians at brunians.org wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "Really, this doesn't come up with me.\nI must be getting old." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "It's not you I'm particularly worried about, either. But suppose \nHarlan Ellison shows up?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "I can take him.\nAs long as I can keep him at arm's length anyway." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I _would_ appreciate such a brawl, but still I don't think Mr Wolfe \nwould." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "If there's one person I'd worry about trying to apply the Two Apricots \nto me, it's probably Harlan Ellison. So it's probably for the best.\n\nAdam" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Rebecca Bushong-Taylor", "address": "rebeccabt01 at gmail.com" }, "date": "2009-04-01T19:05:15+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<49D3B821.3010601@io.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "If people are serious about this and genuinely mean for it to be a tribute\nto Gene and not simply a \"groupie fest\", the smart thing to do might be to\ntalk to his daughter Teri, who lives closest of all his kids." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Jeff Wilson wrote:\nbrunians at brunians.org wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Really, this doesn't come up with me.\n\nI must be getting old." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "It's not you I'm particularly worried about, either. But suppose Harlan\nEllison shows up?\n\n--\nJeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com\n< http://www.io.com/~jwilson >\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<6170.67.142.130.34.1238613129.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2009-04-01T19:12:09+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<49D3B821.3010601@io.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I got a bottle of ether and some ketamine darts....\n\n\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "brunians at brunians.org wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Really, this doesn't come up with me.\n\nI must be getting old." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "It's not you I'm particularly worried about, either. But suppose Harlan\nEllison shows up?\n\n--\nJeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com\n< http://www.io.com/~jwilson >\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<12154.67.142.130.34.1238613165.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2009-04-01T19:12:45+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Just don't drop him and don't let him kick you in the elbow.\n\n\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Apr 1, 2009, at 1:53 PM, Jeff Wilson wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "brunians at brunians.org wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Really, this doesn't come up with me.\nI must be getting old." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "It's not you I'm particularly worried about, either. But suppose\nHarlan Ellison shows up?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I can take him.\n\nAs long as I can keep him at arm's length anyway.\n\nAdam_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<6453.67.142.130.34.1238613354.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2009-04-01T19:15:54+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I am completely serious about this, and I will go to great lengths to\nensure that it is in fact a tribute to Gene and not a groupie fest, and I\nwould be incredibly happy to talk to Teri if only I knew how to get in\ntouch with her!\n\n\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "If people are serious about this and genuinely mean for it to be a tribute\nto Gene and not simply a \"groupie fest\", the smart thing to do might be to\ntalk to his daughter Teri, who lives closest of all his kids.\n\n\n\nOn Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Jeff Wilson wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "brunians at brunians.org wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Really, this doesn't come up with me.\n\nI must be getting old." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "It's not you I'm particularly worried about, either. But suppose Harlan\nEllison shows up?\n\n--\nJeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com\n< http://www.io.com/~jwilson >\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "James Wynn", "address": "crushtv at gmail.com" }, "date": "2009-04-01T19:17:38+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "If people are serious about this and genuinely mean\nfor it to be a tribute to Gene and not simply a \"groupie fest\",\nthe smart thing to do might be to talk to his daughter Teri,\nwho lives closest of all his kids." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I don't disagree about any of this, but how would a \"groupie fest\" not be a \ntribute to Gene?\nIf people showed up dressed a Severian or Horn or Typhon, could that be \nanything but a tribute? Gene has been going to conventions since the early \nseventies (at least), I'd be surprised if he did not appreciate a convention \nthrown in honor of his works. He'll probably have a \"real\" birthday party \nwith family and friends. Anything organized from this list is likely to be \nindistinguishable from a festival of fans.\n\nJust trying to establish realistic expectations.\n\nJ. " } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Rebecca Bushong-Taylor", "address": "rebeccabt01 at gmail.com" }, "date": "2009-04-01T19:21:00+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I was under the impression that Teri was affiliated with Urth.net, and\ncontributed from time to time. If you can't get her email address that way,\nI could check with her and see if it's ok to pass on her address to you...." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 2:17 PM, James Wynn wrote:\nIf people are serious about this and genuinely mean\nfor it to be a tribute to Gene and not simply a \"groupie fest\",\nthe smart thing to do might be to talk to his daughter Teri,\nwho lives closest of all his kids." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I don't disagree about any of this, but how would a \"groupie fest\" not be a\ntribute to Gene?\nIf people showed up dressed a Severian or Horn or Typhon, could that be\nanything but a tribute? Gene has been going to conventions since the early\nseventies (at least), I'd be surprised if he did not appreciate a convention\nthrown in honor of his works. He'll probably have a \"real\" birthday party\nwith family and friends. Anything organized from this list is likely to be\nindistinguishable from a festival of fans.\n\nJust trying to establish realistic expectations.\n\nJ.\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<15699.67.142.130.34.1238613918.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2009-04-01T19:25:18+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I imagine that if this is going to be real, at some point we will discover\nhis likes and dislikes in these matters, which we will then conform to.\n\nI remember from his writings that he doesn't want to be sent out after\nice. That should be fairly easy....\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "If people are serious about this and genuinely mean\nfor it to be a tribute to Gene and not simply a \"groupie fest\",\nthe smart thing to do might be to talk to his daughter Teri,\nwho lives closest of all his kids." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I don't disagree about any of this, but how would a \"groupie fest\" not be\na tribute to Gene?\nIf people showed up dressed a Severian or Horn or Typhon, could that be\nanything but a tribute? Gene has been going to conventions since the early\nseventies (at least), I'd be surprised if he did not appreciate a\nconvention\nthrown in honor of his works. He'll probably have a \"real\" birthday party\nwith family and friends. Anything organized from this list is likely to be\nindistinguishable from a festival of fans.\n\nJust trying to establish realistic expectations.\n\nJ.\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "James Wynn", "address": "crushtv at gmail.com" }, "date": "2009-04-01T19:47:25+00:00", "subject": "(urth) from National Review Online", "in_reply_to": "<15699.67.142.130.34.1238613918.squirrel@brunians.org>", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "You know....the more I think about it, if this were called a Gene Wolfe \nConvention and were organized as such with all the events and forums and \nhoopla one expects from such things, and if it were held in the Chicago \narea, Gene would go. Also, it would probably attract more admirers on this \nlist, and an impressive assortment of Named Authors as well. You should get \nin touch with the Windy Con people since they already have experience with \nsuch things.\n\nIf one wants merely to sit down at a meal with Gene and Rosemary, my recent \nexperience was that he is an especially accessible person. If you contacted \nTeri and set a date, you could buy a plane ticket to Chicago and have the \nopportunity to take the Wolfe's to dinner yourself. Invite Teri along, \nbecause she's a real hoot.\n\nJ.\n\n " } ] } ] }