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This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 5417, "subject": "Urth Digest, Vol 56, Issue 58", "messages": 1, "voices": 1, "first": "2009-04-28T21:19:22+00:00", "last": "2009-04-28T21:19:22+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Robin Dunn", "address": "bigbadgerjohnny at gmail.com" }, "date": "2009-04-28T21:19:22+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Urth Digest, Vol 56, Issue 58", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Fascinating discussion of the moral parts the Neighbors play vis a vis\nhuman settlement on Blue--\n\nOne thought I had is that it can be counterproductive to some extent\nto expect that every creature we find in Wolfe fits into a detailed\nbestiary that he had planned.\n\nSeverian narrates at some point in Thrax that he rarely reads tales\nwhere strangers are encountered, no dialogue results, but some\nnameless hatred is still there between men. As I recall Severian has\nthis thought when he passes some guy that glares at him, without any\nexplanation.\n\nPart of what I always liked about Wolfe is that he's willing to have\nso many loose ends, and he's willing to introduce incredibly complex\nideas and characters almost as side-gags, before moving on to\nsomething completely different.\n\nI guess what I'm saying is, sometimes the crazy shit goes down, and we\nstay in the dark ;)" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:09 PM, wrote:\nSend Urth mailing list submissions to\n? ? ? ?urth at lists.urth.net\n\nTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit\n? ? ? ?http://lists.urth.net/listinfo.cgi/urth-urth.net\nor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to\n? ? ? ?urth-request at lists.urth.net\n\nYou can reach the person managing the list at\n? ? ? ?urth-owner at lists.urth.net\n\nWhen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific\nthan \"Re: Contents of Urth digest...\"\n\n\nToday's Topics:\n\n? 1. ?Rajan and Food (Brian Lovely)\n? 2. Re: ?Rajan and Food (James Wynn)\n? 3. Re: ?Rajan and Food (Jordon Flato)\n? 4. Re: ?Rajan and Food (Jordon Flato)\n\n\n----------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nMessage: 1\nDate: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 06:58:32 -0400\nFrom: \"Brian Lovely\" \nSubject: (urth) Rajan and Food\nTo: \nMessage-ID: <011001c9c7f0$465a20c0$d30e6240$@com>\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=\"us-ascii\"\n\nHe's a tree, he's a tree! Neighbors are trees, Inhumi are parasitic vines.\n.or something. ?Not sure what the Neighbor-version of Inhumi are-maybe the\nvine with a face that is cut for Incanto's staff. ?Except that seems so\nquiescent. ?You'd think the Neighbor-Inhumi would be a bit more active. ?The\nInhumi are somehow about sacrifice and one race raising up another. ?The\nNeighbors infected humans with Inhumi to see what human-Inhumi would be\nlike.not sure where I'm going with this, but there's something here about\nbeing willing to suffer for the betterment of the Inhumi. ?So, a) the\ncrossbreed would be a \"higher\" being than the pure Inhumi, and b) you'd rid\nyourself of them by being so passive.they'd take on your Christ-like\nwillingness to sacrifice yourself.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\"James Wynn\" crushtv at gmail.com wrote:\n\n\n\nGranted, but when it is combined with the onset of ravenous hunger in the\nSpring, we know more is going on here (incidentally, this is more of that\nTree-Neighbor connection that I still don't understand). I do not recall an\ninstance of LS Silk pretending to eat food set before him. He fasts, but\nwhen there is not a lot of food available anyway, it is easy to be holy in\nthat way. Not the same thing as what happens in SS, I think.\n\n\n\n\n\n--Brian Lovely\n\n-------------- next part --------------\nAn HTML attachment was scrubbed...\nURL: \n\n------------------------------\n\nMessage: 2\nDate: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:04:11 -0500\nFrom: \"James Wynn\" \nSubject: Re: (urth) Rajan and Food\nTo: \"The Urth Mailing List\" \nMessage-ID: \nContent-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=\"iso-8859-1\";\n? ? ? ?reply-type=original" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "He's a tree, he's a tree! Neighbors are trees,\nInhumi are parasitic vines. ?.or something.\nNot sure what the Neighbor-version of Inhumi\nare-maybe the vine with a face that is cut for Incanto's staff." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Brian, let's posit that the Neighbors are dryads--that their steady physical\nform is one of the \"sleepy trees\" in the forests of Blue. How do the inhumi\nmake the jump to become vines? Or how do they transform back to\nwinged/clawed vampiric reptiles? That is the fundamental problem with any\n\"tree/vine theory\" regarding the Neighbors and inhumi.\n\nJ.\n\n\n\n------------------------------\n\nMessage: 3\nDate: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:00:10 -0700\nFrom: Jordon Flato \nSubject: Re: (urth) Rajan and Food" } ] } ] }