Urth Digest, Vol 56, Issue 58 The Urth list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 28 Apr 2009 https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/5417 Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. ============================================================================== Robin Dunn — 28 Apr 2009, 21:19 Fascinating discussion of the moral parts the Neighbors play vis a vis human settlement on Blue-- One thought I had is that it can be counterproductive to some extent to expect that every creature we find in Wolfe fits into a detailed bestiary that he had planned. Severian narrates at some point in Thrax that he rarely reads tales where strangers are encountered, no dialogue results, but some nameless hatred is still there between men. As I recall Severian has this thought when he passes some guy that glares at him, without any explanation. Part of what I always liked about Wolfe is that he's willing to have so many loose ends, and he's willing to introduce incredibly complex ideas and characters almost as side-gags, before moving on to something completely different. I guess what I'm saying is, sometimes the crazy shit goes down, and we stay in the dark ;) > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:09 PM, wrote: > Send Urth mailing list submissions to > ? ? ? ?urth at lists.urth.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > ? ? ? ?http://lists.urth.net/listinfo.cgi/urth-urth.net > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ? ? ? ?urth-request at lists.urth.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ? ? ? ?urth-owner at lists.urth.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Urth digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > ? 1. ?Rajan and Food (Brian Lovely) > ? 2. Re: ?Rajan and Food (James Wynn) > ? 3. Re: ?Rajan and Food (Jordon Flato) > ? 4. Re: ?Rajan and Food (Jordon Flato) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 06:58:32 -0400 > From: "Brian Lovely" > Subject: (urth) Rajan and Food > To: > Message-ID: <011001c9c7f0$465a20c0$d30e6240$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > He's a tree, he's a tree! Neighbors are trees, Inhumi are parasitic vines. > .or something. ?Not sure what the Neighbor-version of Inhumi are-maybe the > vine with a face that is cut for Incanto's staff. ?Except that seems so > quiescent. ?You'd think the Neighbor-Inhumi would be a bit more active. ?The > Inhumi are somehow about sacrifice and one race raising up another. ?The > Neighbors infected humans with Inhumi to see what human-Inhumi would be > like.not sure where I'm going with this, but there's something here about > being willing to suffer for the betterment of the Inhumi. ?So, a) the > crossbreed would be a "higher" being than the pure Inhumi, and b) you'd rid > yourself of them by being so passive.they'd take on your Christ-like > willingness to sacrifice yourself. > > > > > > > > "James Wynn" crushtv at gmail.com wrote: > > > > Granted, but when it is combined with the onset of ravenous hunger in the > Spring, we know more is going on here (incidentally, this is more of that > Tree-Neighbor connection that I still don't understand). I do not recall an > instance of LS Silk pretending to eat food set before him. He fasts, but > when there is not a lot of food available anyway, it is easy to be holy in > that way. Not the same thing as what happens in SS, I think. > > > > > > --Brian Lovely > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:04:11 -0500 > From: "James Wynn" > Subject: Re: (urth) Rajan and Food > To: "The Urth Mailing List" > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > ? ? ? ?reply-type=original > > He's a tree, he's a tree! Neighbors are trees, > > Inhumi are parasitic vines. ?.or something. > > Not sure what the Neighbor-version of Inhumi > > are-maybe the vine with a face that is cut for Incanto's staff. > Brian, let's posit that the Neighbors are dryads--that their steady physical > form is one of the "sleepy trees" in the forests of Blue. How do the inhumi > make the jump to become vines? Or how do they transform back to > winged/clawed vampiric reptiles? That is the fundamental problem with any > "tree/vine theory" regarding the Neighbors and inhumi. > > J. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:00:10 -0700 > From: Jordon Flato > Subject: Re: (urth) Rajan and Food ------------------------------------------------------------------------------