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  "thread": {
    "id": 5429,
    "subject": "Of Blog of the Fallen: \"M. John Harrison, The Pastel City\"",
    "messages": 6,
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    "first": "2009-05-07T01:56:31+00:00",
    "last": "2009-05-07T15:57:29+00:00"
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    {
      "message_id": "<487567.54951.qm@web63906.mail.re1.yahoo.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Fred Kiesche",
        "address": "recursive_loop at yahoo.com"
      },
      "date": "2009-05-07T01:56:31+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Of Blog of the Fallen: \"M. John Harrison, The Pastel City\"",
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          "text": "Thought this might be of interest to some. From what I recall of the book (the last time I read it, my girlfriend gave me a copy...and we've been married almost twenty-five years, so do the math!):\n\nhttp://ofblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/m-john-harrison-pastel-city.html\n\nI've got vague recollection of this being somewhat Vance or (Clark Ashton) Smith in feel. The edition I had back then was in the \"Timescape\" line, which brought us...well, the Urth books!\n\nF.P. Kiesche III  \"Ah Mr. Gibbon, another damned, fat, square book. Always, scribble, scribble, scribble, eh?\" (The Duke of Gloucester, on being presented with Volume 2 of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.) Blogging at The Lensman's Children and TexasBestGrok!\n\n\n      "
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      "message_id": "<44fb53d10905061948u29080ff0w69c3083df6982355@mail.gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Matthew Keeley",
        "address": "matthew.keeley.1 at gmail.com"
      },
      "date": "2009-05-07T02:48:24+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Of Blog of the Fallen: \"M. John Harrison,\n\tThe Pastel City\"",
      "in_reply_to": "<487567.54951.qm@web63906.mail.re1.yahoo.com>",
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          "text": "I've always liked that blog; I wish I had as much time to read as does\nthe proprietor. This is saying a lot, as I read a lot more books than\nmost people.\n\nI haven't read Harrison, though he's on my (horribly long) list of\nwriters to read. I almost bought Harrison's Viriconium a month or so\nago, in part due to my reading of the afore-cited blog, but none of\nthe bookstores in my area had it.\n\nSeveral posts on the Blog of the Fallen mention Roberto Bolano - Has\nanyone here read him? Some aspects of his books, especially Amulet,\nbring Wolfe to mind for me. Bolano also reminds me of Wolfe in that I\nwant to read everything by the man.\n\n-Matt"
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    },
    {
      "message_id": "<865104.71138.qm@web37602.mail.mud.yahoo.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Craig Brewer",
        "address": "cnbrewer at yahoo.com"
      },
      "date": "2009-05-07T02:50:58+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Of Blog of the Fallen: \"M. John Harrison,\n\tThe Pastel City\"",
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          "text": "Virconium is WELL worth the time. It might seem a touch dated in a very elusive way, however, since Harrison has often said that he wrote the stories out of his own frustration as a sf/fantasy editor in the 60s/70s. They aren't anti-genre, by any means, but some of the things he does that were \"new\" then will seem more familiar to Vance/Wolfe/even Moorcock fans.\n\nBut if you're just up for the \"dying earth\" vibe, it's also a great exercise in that game.\n\n\n\n----- Original Message ----\nFrom: Matthew Keeley <matthew.keeley.1 at gmail.com>\nTo: recursive_loop at yahoo.com; The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net>\nSent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 9:48:24 PM\nSubject: Re: (urth) Of Blog of the Fallen: \"M. John Harrison, The Pastel City\"\n\nI've always liked that blog; I wish I had as much time to read as does\nthe proprietor. This is saying a lot, as I read a lot more books than\nmost people.\n\nI haven't read Harrison, though he's on my (horribly long) list of\nwriters to read. I almost bought Harrison's Viriconium a month or so\nago, in part due to my reading of the afore-cited blog, but none of\nthe bookstores in my area had it.\n\nSeveral posts on the Blog of the Fallen mention Roberto Bolano - Has\nanyone here read him? Some aspects of his books, especially Amulet,\nbring Wolfe to mind for me. Bolano also reminds me of Wolfe in that I\nwant to read everything by the man.\n\n-Matt"
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      "message_id": "<1E79B269-3F30-4510-8467-FCB12FEF9E5D@io.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Adam Thornton",
        "address": "adam at io.com"
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      "date": "2009-05-07T03:29:52+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Of Blog of the Fallen: \"M. John Harrison,\n\tThe Pastel City\"",
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          "text": "On May 6, 2009, at 9:50 PM, Craig Brewer wrote:\n\nVirconium is WELL worth the time. It might seem a touch dated in a  \nvery elusive way, however, since Harrison has often said that he  \nwrote the stories out of his own frustration as a sf/fantasy editor  \nin the 60s/70s. They aren't anti-genre, by any means, but some of  \nthe things he does that were \"new\" then will seem more familiar to  \nVance/Wolfe/even Moorcock fans."
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          "text": "The first time you see a horse's skull with pomegranates for eyes,  \nit's really cool.\n\nThe fifteenth time, not so much,\n\nAdam"
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    {
      "message_id": "<C627B9A2.9661%ishmael@drizzle.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "James Crossley",
        "address": "ishmael at drizzle.com"
      },
      "date": "2009-05-07T05:03:14+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Of Blog of the Fallen: \"M. John Harrison,\n\tThe Pastel\tCity\"",
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          "text": "On 5/6/09 7:48 PM, \"Matthew Keeley\" <matthew.keeley.1 at gmail.com> wrote:\nI've always liked that blog; I wish I had as much time to read as does\nthe proprietor. This is saying a lot, as I read a lot more books than\nmost people.\n\nI haven't read Harrison, though he's on my (horribly long) list of\nwriters to read. I almost bought Harrison's Viriconium a month or so\nago, in part due to my reading of the afore-cited blog, but none of\nthe bookstores in my area had it."
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          "text": "I'll second the Harrison recommendation.  He's an excellent stylist, in or\nout of genre.  _Light_ and _Nova Swing_ are well worth a look."
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          "text": "Several posts on the Blog of the Fallen mention Roberto Bolano - Has\nanyone here read him? Some aspects of his books, especially Amulet,\nbring Wolfe to mind for me. Bolano also reminds me of Wolfe in that I\nwant to read everything by the man.\n\n-Matt"
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          "text": "A heartier second here.  Bolano is the most interesting \"new\" writer to come\nalong in years, says I.  I'd say it'd be great to set up an urth-list kind\nof discussion group for him, but his books are strangely resistant to\nanalysis, I find.\n\nJames"
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      "from": {
        "name": "Jordon Flato",
        "address": "jordonflato at gmail.com"
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      "date": "2009-05-07T15:57:29+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Of Blog of the Fallen: \"M. John Harrison,\n\tThe Pastel City\"",
      "in_reply_to": "<C627B9A2.9661%ishmael@drizzle.com>",
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          "text": "I've only read The Savage Detectives by Bolano, but I thoroughly enjoyed it,\nand will certainly read the rest of his work.  Top rate stuff."
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          "text": "On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:03 PM, James Crossley <ishmael at drizzle.com> wrote:\nOn 5/6/09 7:48 PM, \"Matthew Keeley\" <matthew.keeley.1 at gmail.com> wrote:"
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          "text": "I've always liked that blog; I wish I had as much time to read as does\nthe proprietor. This is saying a lot, as I read a lot more books than\nmost people.\n\nI haven't read Harrison, though he's on my (horribly long) list of\nwriters to read. I almost bought Harrison's Viriconium a month or so\nago, in part due to my reading of the afore-cited blog, but none of\nthe bookstores in my area had it."
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          "text": "I'll second the Harrison recommendation.  He's an excellent stylist, in or\nout of genre.  _Light_ and _Nova Swing_ are well worth a look."
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          "text": "Several posts on the Blog of the Fallen mention Roberto Bolano - Has\nanyone here read him? Some aspects of his books, especially Amulet,\nbring Wolfe to mind for me. Bolano also reminds me of Wolfe in that I\nwant to read everything by the man.\n\n-Matt"
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          "kind": "quote",
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          "text": "A heartier second here.  Bolano is the most interesting \"new\" writer to\ncome\nalong in years, says I.  I'd say it'd be great to set up an urth-list kind\nof discussion group for him, but his books are strangely resistant to\nanalysis, I find.\n\nJames\n\n_______________________________________________"
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