AEG - Wally as angel = Inhumi? The Urth list — 4 messages, 4 voices, 07 May 2009 https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/5430 Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. ============================================================================== Stephen Hoy — 07 May 2009, 16:47 During the banshee banter, Cassie remarks that she'll be "going out with it" (p64). This identifies Wally Rosenquist as one of the 'sidh'. From various sources, we learn the sidh were widely perceived as fallen angels. The common folk referred to sidh euphemistically as Gray Neighbors, Good Neighbors, and other innocuous names designed to avoid provoking these entities. To reinforce this idea, note that Rosenquist as theatrical money-man is repeatedly called an angel: "I've got this angel" p55 "India's got an angel" p60 "How long has India had this angel?" p61 From behind Ebony, Tabbi murmured, "I thought she was bringing the angel." p62 "Let's have a real standing 'O' for a real angel--Mr. Wallace Rosenquist!" p66 "our angel Wally Rosenquist" p75 Now look at the etymology of the name Rosenquist, a Norse double-nominative = rose + twig, which brings to mind both vines and propagation by graft. Think about this in conjunction with the recent discussion of Neighbors and Inhumi, haploid/diploid/quadriploid chromosomes, and trees & vines in the Short Sun. Some remarks in the first chapter about the advanced biology of Woldercan led me to speculate that Wally may be a biological creation, a grafted propagation of some sort. His name is a suggestive hint in line with this speculation. To draw the parallel closer, angels and Inhumi both fly. In AEG, we're led to believe that Bill/Wally are one and the same, but there are a few indications they may be two distinct entities, for example, Cassie saw Bill Reis/Wally Rosenquist in the audience during the final performance of The Red Spot, but when questioned later, whoever it was that answered denied being present. Maybe Wally is a propagation of Bill. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Rebecca Bushong-Taylor — 07 May 2009, 18:28 in reply to Stephen Hoy But what I want to know is, What happened to India Dempster? > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Stephen Hoy wrote: > During the banshee banter, Cassie remarks that she'll be "going out with > it" (p64). This identifies Wally Rosenquist as one of the 'sidh'. From > various sources, we learn the sidh were widely perceived as fallen > angels. The common folk referred to sidh euphemistically as Gray Neighbors, > Good Neighbors, and other innocuous names designed to avoid provoking these > entities. > > To reinforce this idea, note that Rosenquist as theatrical money-man > is repeatedly called an angel: > "I've got this angel" p55 > "India's got an angel" p60 > "How long has India had this angel?" p61 > From behind Ebony, Tabbi murmured, "I thought she was bringing the > angel." p62 > "Let's have a real standing 'O' for a real angel--Mr. Wallace > Rosenquist!" p66 > "our angel Wally Rosenquist" p75 > > Now look at the etymology of the name Rosenquist, a Norse > double-nominative = rose + twig, which brings to mind both vines and > propagation by graft. Think about this in conjunction with the recent > discussion of Neighbors and Inhumi, haploid/diploid/quadriploid chromosomes, > and trees & vines in the Short Sun. Some remarks in the first > chapter about the advanced biology of Woldercan led me to speculate that > Wally may be a biological creation, a grafted propagation of some sort. His > name is a suggestive hint in line with this speculation. To draw the > parallel closer, angels and Inhumi both fly. > > In AEG, we're led to believe that Bill/Wally are one and the same, but > there are a few indications they may be two distinct entities, for example, > Cassie saw Bill Reis/Wally Rosenquist in the audience during the final > performance of The Red Spot, but when questioned later, whoever it was that > answered denied being present. Maybe Wally is a propagation of Bill. > > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ matthew at calmeilles.co.uk — 08 May 2009, 08:02 in reply to Stephen Hoy > stephenhoy at yahoo.com wrote: > During the banshee banter, Cassie remarks that she'll be "going > out with it" (p64). This identifies Wally Rosenquist as one of > the 'sidh'. From various sources, we learn the sidh were widely > perceived as fallen angels. The common folk referred to sidh > euphemistically as Gray Neighbors, Good Neighbors, and other > innocuous names designed to avoid provoking these entities. > To reinforce this idea, note that Rosenquist as theatrical > money-man is repeatedly called an angel: > "I've got this angel" p55 > "India's got an angel" p60 > "How long has India had this angel?" p61 > From behind Ebony, Tabbi murmured, "I thought she was bringing > the angel." p62 > "Let's have a real standing 'O' for a real angel--Mr. Wallace > Rosenquist!" p66 > "our angel Wally Rosenquist" p75 It's not obvious to me from your post if you know this or not, so please forgive me if I'm stating the stupidly obvious. Angel is the common accepted term for a theatrical financial backer so the usage cited is normal without need for further interpretation. http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/bimmanual/bim66601.htm Granted that this being Wolfe further interpretation at several levels is not just possible but almost obligatory. :) Matthew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ James Wynn — 08 May 2009, 15:08 in reply to matthew at calmeilles.co.uk > stephenhoy at yahoo.com wrote: > > During the banshee banter, Cassie remarks that she'll be "going > > out with it" (p64). This identifies Wally Rosenquist as one of > > the 'sidh'. From various sources, we learn the sidh were widely > > perceived as fallen angels. The common folk referred to sidh > > euphemistically as Gray Neighbors, Good Neighbors, and other > > innocuous names designed to avoid provoking these entities. > > To reinforce this idea, note that Rosenquist as theatrical > > money-man is repeatedly called an angel: > > "I've got this angel" p55 > > "India's got an angel" p60 > > "How long has India had this angel?" p61 > > From behind Ebony, Tabbi murmured, "I thought she was bringing > > the angel." p62 > > "Let's have a real standing 'O' for a real angel--Mr. Wallace > > Rosenquist!" p66 > > "our angel Wally Rosenquist" p75 > It's not obvious to me from your post if you know this or not, > so please forgive me if I'm stating the stupidly obvious. > Angel is the common accepted term for a theatrical financial > backer so the usage cited is normal without need for further > interpretation. > Granted that this being Wolfe further interpretation at several > levels is not just possible but almost obligatory. :) http://www.urth.org/whorlmap/quetzal.htm At the link, above I detailed certain connections between inhumi and angels. Keep in mind that I've barely touched these articles since before reading "The Book of the Short Sun". As soon as I manage to reconnect with the site admin, I'll try to correct/edit them. Mind you, just because WR and the inhumi are both associated with angels does not make WR an alien posing as or replacing a human. However, given all the similarities between inhumi and Annese, it shouldn't be ignored either. J. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------