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This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 5434, "subject": "giant herb islands", "messages": 7, "voices": 4, "first": "2009-05-19T15:15:58+00:00", "last": "2009-05-19T18:19:43+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "<484221.42928.qm@web58205.mail.re3.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "Marc Aramini", "address": "marcaramini at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2009-05-19T15:15:58+00:00", "subject": "(urth) giant herb islands", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "a few weeks ago I made the claim the island of the pit on blue was composed of trees. I am always travelling and so did not have access to my books until now. On page 161 of oBW, chapter 6, the storm shakes up the islands and reveals to Horn that they are actually composed of "giant herbs" that are not trees or ferns but have the nature of them, and that Babbie and he walked on the branches and leaves believing them to be ground. \n\nJust a bit more hinting that the pit Horn falls in might be the maw of one such ocean growing herb.\n\n\n " } ] }, { "message_id": "<273409710905190856j40bd7a5bs9640eb858ee800b7@mail.gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "Jordon Flato", "address": "jordonflato at gmail.com" }, "date": "2009-05-19T15:56:00+00:00", "subject": "(urth) giant herb islands", "in_reply_to": "<484221.42928.qm@web58205.mail.re3.yahoo.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Aren't you confusing two different Islands? The one you are talking about\nis the one with the lake which contains the monster that attacks Babbie and\nHe. He doesn't even have Seawrack at that point. The Pit Island I remember\nas more of a standard Island.\n\nIs that incorrect?" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Marc Aramini wrote:\n\na few weeks ago I made the claim the island of the pit on blue was composed\nof trees. I am always travelling and so did not have access to my books\nuntil now. On page 161 of oBW, chapter 6, the storm shakes up the islands\nand reveals to Horn that they are actually composed of \"giant herbs\" that\nare not trees or ferns but have the nature of them, and that Babbie and he\nwalked on the branches and leaves believing them to be ground.\n\nJust a bit more hinting that the pit Horn falls in might be the maw of one\nsuch ocean growing herb.\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<992123.38621.qm@web58204.mail.re3.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "Marc Aramini", "address": "marcaramini at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2009-05-19T17:29:40+00:00", "subject": "(urth) giant herb islands", "in_reply_to": "<273409710905190856j40bd7a5bs9640eb858ee800b7@mail.gmail.com>", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I merely believe it is evidence that some of the land mass of the islands are composed of giant trees. Whether or not it is that one, there are islands made up of trees on Blue, which means that the other island chain with the pit might be equally vegetable in nature, whether it is the same one Horn sees or not.\n\n\n--- On Tue, 5/19/09, Jordon Flato wrote:\n\n\nFrom: Jordon Flato \nSubject: Re: (urth) giant herb islands\nTo: \"The Urth Mailing List\" \nDate: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 8:56 AM\n\n\nAren't you confusing two different Islands? The one you are talking about is the one with the lake which contains the monster that attacks Babbie and He. He doesn't even have Seawrack at that point. The Pit Island I remember as more of a standard Island.\n\nIs that incorrect?\n\n\nOn Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Marc Aramini wrote:\n\n\na few weeks ago I made the claim the island of the pit on blue was composed of trees. ?I am always travelling and so did not have access to my books until now. ?On page 161 of oBW, chapter 6, the storm shakes up the islands and reveals to Horn that they are actually composed of \"giant herbs\" that are not trees or ferns but have the nature of them, and that Babbie and he walked on the branches and leaves believing them to be ground.\n\nJust a bit more hinting that the pit Horn falls in might be the maw of one such ocean growing herb.\n\n\n\n\n\n-----Inline Attachment Follows-----" } ] }, { "message_id": "<273409710905191101y189d30ag6e627c08b357124e@mail.gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "Jordon Flato", "address": "jordonflato at gmail.com" }, "date": "2009-05-19T18:01:11+00:00", "subject": "(urth) giant herb islands", "in_reply_to": "<992123.38621.qm@web58204.mail.re3.yahoo.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "It just seems to me that Horn gives a very 'alien' description of the Island\nthat is made out of floating plants then he gives for any other Island. It\nseems clear he would, after that point, be able to notice the difference.\n\nIn any event, it is an interesting subject!\n\nHas any else read Life of Pi? I'm always struck by how that book also has\nan Island made up of floating plants...." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Marc Aramini wrote:\n\nI merely believe it is evidence that some of the land mass of the islands\nare composed of giant trees. Whether or not it is that one, there are\nislands made up of trees on Blue, which means that the other island chain\nwith the pit might be equally vegetable in nature, whether it is the same\none Horn sees or not.\n\n\n--- On *Tue, 5/19/09, Jordon Flato * wrote:\n\n\nFrom: Jordon Flato \nSubject: Re: (urth) giant herb islands\nTo: \"The Urth Mailing List\" \nDate: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 8:56 AM\n\n\nAren't you confusing two different Islands? The one you are talking about\nis the one with the lake which contains the monster that attacks Babbie and\nHe. He doesn't even have Seawrack at that point. The Pit Island I remember\nas more of a standard Island.\n\nIs that incorrect?\n\nOn Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Marc Aramini \nwrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "a few weeks ago I made the claim the island of the pit on blue was\ncomposed of trees. I am always travelling and so did not have access to my\nbooks until now. On page 161 of oBW, chapter 6, the storm shakes up the\nislands and reveals to Horn that they are actually composed of \"giant herbs\"\nthat are not trees or ferns but have the nature of them, and that Babbie and\nhe walked on the branches and leaves believing them to be ground.\n\nJust a bit more hinting that the pit Horn falls in might be the maw of one\nsuch ocean growing herb.\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<4A12F46C.6060704@verizon.net>", "from": { "name": "David Stockhoff", "address": "dstockhoff at verizon.net" }, "date": "2009-05-19T18:03:24+00:00", "subject": "(urth) giant herb islands", "in_reply_to": "<273409710905191101y189d30ag6e627c08b357124e@mail.gmail.com>", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "CARNIVOROUS trees, then. Of course. One big fly trap.\n\nI think one key to understanding Green and Blue is that, for some reason, all the major \"plant\" life on both planets is carnivorous. This does not imply consciousness, but it makes it more plausible---whether you're talking about the Neighbors or the inhumi. Consciousness is especially fluid in The Short Sun." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "------------------------------\n\nMessage: 3\nDate: Tue, 19 May 2009 08:15:58 -0700 (PDT)\nFrom: Marc Aramini \nSubject: (urth) giant herb islands\nTo: \"urth at urth.net\" \nMessage-ID: <484221.42928.qm at web58205.mail.re3.yahoo.com>\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii\n\n\na few weeks ago I made the claim the island of the pit on blue was composed of trees. I am always travelling and so did not have access to my books until now. On page 161 of oBW, chapter 6, the storm shakes up the islands and reveals to Horn that they are actually composed of "giant herbs" that are not trees or ferns but have the nature of them, and that Babbie and he walked on the branches and leaves believing them to be ground. \n\nJust a bit more hinting that the pit Horn falls in might be the maw of one such ocean growing herb.\n\n\n \n\n\n------------------------------" } ] }, { "message_id": "<20090519181026.YXME12338.eastrmmtao103.cox.net@eastrmimpo03.cox.net>", "from": { "name": "James B. Jordan", "address": "jbjordan4 at cox.net" }, "date": "2009-05-19T18:10:29+00:00", "subject": "(urth) giant herb islands", "in_reply_to": "<273409710905191101y189d30ag6e627c08b357124e@mail.gmail.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Aren't all the islands on Perelandra made up of floating plants?\n\nNutria" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "At 01:01 PM 5/19/2009, you wrote:\nIt just seems to me that Horn gives a very 'alien' description of \nthe Island that is made out of floating plants then he gives for any \nother Island. It seems clear he would, after that point, be able to \nnotice the difference.\n\nIn any event, it is an interesting subject!\n\nHas any else read Life of Pi? I'm always struck by how that book \nalso has an Island made up of floating plants....\n\nOn Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Marc Aramini \n<marcaramini at yahoo.com> wrote:\n\nI merely believe it is evidence that some of the land mass of the \nislands are composed of giant trees. Whether or not it is that one, \nthere are islands made up of trees on Blue, which means that the \nother island chain with the pit might be equally vegetable in \nnature, whether it is the same one Horn sees or not.\n\n\n--- On Tue, 5/19/09, Jordon Flato \n<jordonflato at gmail.com> wrote:\n\nFrom: Jordon Flato <jordonflato at gmail.com>\nSubject: Re: (urth) giant herb islands\nTo: \"The Urth Mailing List\" <urth at lists.urth.net>\nDate: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 8:56 AM\n\n\nAren't you confusing two different Islands? The one you are talking \nabout is the one with the lake which contains the monster that \nattacks Babbie and He. He doesn't even have Seawrack at that \npoint. The Pit Island I remember as more of a standard Island.\n\nIs that incorrect?\n\nOn Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Marc Aramini \n<marcaramini at yahoo.com> \nwrote:\n\na few weeks ago I made the claim the island of the pit on blue was \ncomposed of trees. I am always travelling and so did not have \naccess to my books until now. On page 161 of oBW, chapter 6, the \nstorm shakes up the islands and reveals to Horn that they are \nactually composed of \"giant herbs\" that are not trees or ferns but \nhave the nature of them, and that Babbie and he walked on the \nbranches and leaves believing them to be ground.\n\nJust a bit more hinting that the pit Horn falls in might be the maw \nof one such ocean growing herb.\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<273409710905191119r35cb3223ldb65eadec45e5b8e@mail.gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "Jordon Flato", "address": "jordonflato at gmail.com" }, "date": "2009-05-19T18:19:43+00:00", "subject": "(urth) giant herb islands", "in_reply_to": "<4A12F46C.6060704@verizon.net>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Is there any evidence that trees on Blue are Carnivorous in any way? The\nPit is certainly not evidence. People talk about it being part of a tree\nthat 'ate' Horn, but on this last recent read through I can't see a single\nthing that supports that, or the idea that the trees on Blue are Carnivorous\nor maleficent in any way at all, as opposed to Green, where that is\nabundantly clear." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:03 AM, David Stockhoff wrote:\nCARNIVOROUS trees, then. Of course. One big fly trap.\n\nI think one key to understanding Green and Blue is that, for some reason,\nall the major \"plant\" life on both planets is carnivorous. This does not\nimply consciousness, but it makes it more plausible---whether you're talking\nabout the Neighbors or the inhumi. Consciousness is especially fluid in The\nShort Sun.\n\n------------------------------\n\nMessage: 3\nDate: Tue, 19 May 2009 08:15:58 -0700 (PDT)\nFrom: Marc Aramini \nSubject: (urth) giant herb islands\nTo: \"urth at urth.net\" \nMessage-ID: <484221.42928.qm at web58205.mail.re3.yahoo.com>\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii\n\n\na few weeks ago I made the claim the island of the pit on blue was composed\nof trees. I am always travelling and so did not have access to my books\nuntil now. On page 161 of oBW, chapter 6, the storm shakes up the islands\nand reveals to Horn that they are actually composed of "giant\nherbs" that are not trees or ferns but have the nature of them, and\nthat Babbie and he walked on the branches and leaves believing them to be\nground.\nJust a bit more hinting that the pit Horn falls in might be the maw of one\nsuch ocean growing herb.\n\n\n\n\n------------------------------\n\n\n\n---\navast! 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