Aztec Moon Goddess = Wolfe Inspiration?

The Urth list — 2 messages, 2 voices, 10 Nov 2009
https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/5508

O'Donnell, Tim BOSI10 Nov 2009, 13:58
Hi, I'm not very good at framing these thoughts well but here is a question for the list. I have scanned the archives but didn't find this mentioned. Catherine/Katherine the patroness of the guild is represented by a maid who is decapitated every year. There are theories as to her relation to Severian; most notably because of the quote where her face is described as like a reflection in a pool of water by moonlight [paraphrased]. So, two data points: * associated with moon * decapitated ritually Also, the action on Urth is mostly set around the commonwealth which is in some sense South America (and other areas) So, further data point: * South American influence Finally, Severian is a solar deity and so one would expect any sisters or his mother to have a connection to the sun * relation to sun god So how about this: http://atheism.about.com/od/aztecgodsgoddesses/p/Coyolxauhqui.htm She is: * Aztec (OK, this is Mexico I know but it is close to the region) * Goddess of the Moon * Sister of the Sun * Was ritually decapitated in mythology and source of inspiration for ritual decapitations in the Aztec religion. Think she could be an inspiration for Wolfe?
brunians at brunians.org10 Nov 2009, 18:00

↳ in reply to O'Donnell, Tim BOSI

Mexico is in North America. It is near 'the region' in the same sense that Ireland is near Kenya. Catherine is obviously St Catherine of Alexandria: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03445a.htm . I note that both Mexico and Argentina are Catholic countries, but that Mexican Catholicism is a lot more American Indian than the version current in Argentina. There are plenty of worshippers of Guadalupe who are only nominally Christian if that. The website that you point at is not notably accurate. Here is the famous image of Coyolxauhqui from Templo Mayor: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coyolxauhqui_disc.JPG There are definitely resemblances between Coyolxauhqui and St Catherine, and there may be a bit of influence, but they are obviously different entities. St Catherine is a celestial, whose feast is celebrated on November 25. What constellation stands on the heliacal horizon on November 25? What constellation stood there 2000 years ago or so? I am unable, currently, to discover the date of the feast of Coyolxauhqui, or if it took place in the context of the 365 day year, or of the of the 260 day / 52 year ceremonial calendar. .
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Hi, I'm not very good at framing these thoughts well but here is a question for the list. I have scanned the archives but didn't find this mentioned. Catherine/Katherine the patroness of the guild is represented by a maid who is decapitated every year. There are theories as to her relation to Severian; most notably because of the quote where her face is described as like a reflection in a pool of water by moonlight [paraphrased]. So, two data points: * associated with moon * decapitated ritually Also, the action on Urth is mostly set around the commonwealth which is in some sense South America (and other areas) So, further data point: * South American influence Finally, Severian is a solar deity and so one would expect any sisters or his mother to have a connection to the sun * relation to sun god So how about this: http://atheism.about.com/od/aztecgodsgoddesses/p/Coyolxauhqui.htm She is: * Aztec (OK, this is Mexico I know but it is close to the region) * Goddess of the Moon * Sister of the Sun * Was ritually decapitated in mythology and source of inspiration for ritual decapitations in the Aztec religion. Think she could be an inspiration for Wolfe? ************************************************************************************************ Find out more about us at www.bankofscotland.ie <http://www.bankofscotland.ie> The information contained in this message is confidential and is intended for the addressee only. If you have received this message in error or there are any problems please notify the originator immediately. The unauthorised use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. This mail and any attachments have been scanned for viruses prior to leaving Bank of Scotland Ireland's network. Bank of Scotland Ireland will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or as a result of any virus being passed on. Bank of Scotland (Ireland) reserves the right to monitor and record e-mail messages sent to and from this address for the purposes of investigating or detecting any unauthorised use of its system and ensuring its effective operation. Bank of Scotland (Ireland) Limited is part of Lloyds Banking Group plc and is regulated by the Financial Regulator. Registered in Ireland Number: 8545 Registered office: Bank of Scotland House, 124-127 St. Stephen???s Green, Dublin 2. **************************************************************************************************** _______________________________________________

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