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  "thread": {
    "id": 5536,
    "subject": "Fifth Head of Cerberus surfaces again",
    "messages": 3,
    "voices": 3,
    "first": "2010-01-13T13:10:10+00:00",
    "last": "2010-01-13T16:51:41+00:00"
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    {
      "message_id": "<cbf55b101001130510x8872d37p3412c1d8ac0d4578@mail.gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Gwern Branwen",
        "address": "gwern0 at gmail.com"
      },
      "date": "2010-01-13T13:10:10+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Fifth Head of Cerberus surfaces again",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "'My cohort's education is always foremost in my mind, but in the past I've typically resorted to misdirections that (once discovered) set the project back substantially. This time - and I recognize that this is strange - I am actually taking his predilections into account. Before, I would have flopped a book like The Fifth Head of Cerberus onto his Intuos and said \"eat this, *dog*.\" I'm taking a different tack now, a breadcrumb trail, so that his mind is starving at the end of each book, and into that ravenous mind I will continuously heap works of burning fire and terrible consequence.'"
        },
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          "text": "http://www.penny-arcade.com/2010/1/13/\n\nIt's funny because the insult is 'dog'.\n\nBut it's also worth noting that the link is to Wikipedia. Since\npenny-arcade.com records a few hundred thousand hits a day (\nhttp://www.statsaholic.com/penny-arcade.com ), odds are good that this\nis most of the readers' first exposure to Wolfe. It will be\ninteresting to keep an eye on\nhttp://stats.grok.se/en/201001/The_Fifth_Head_of_Cerberus and see just\nhow much the article traffic spikes. If it doesn't go to at least a\nthousand, I will be disapointed :)"
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          "text": "gwern"
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    {
      "message_id": "<272706221001130638k65efacb0l5933d43394fc50d1@mail.gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Lane Haygood",
        "address": "lhaygood at gmail.com"
      },
      "date": "2010-01-13T14:38:56+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Fifth Head of Cerberus surfaces again",
      "in_reply_to": "<cbf55b101001130510x8872d37p3412c1d8ac0d4578@mail.gmail.com>",
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          "text": "I would expect no less from Tycho, whose video game blogging skills I\ngreatly admire.  On my own video-game related column for a blog, I\nplan to discuss this reference and others to examine Wolfe's influence\non video games.\n\n-L."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 7:10 AM, Gwern Branwen <gwern0 at gmail.com> wrote:\n'My cohort's education is always foremost in my mind, but in the past I've typically resorted to misdirections that (once discovered) set the project back substantially. This time - and I recognize that this is strange - I am actually taking his predilections into account. Before, I would have flopped a book like The Fifth Head of Cerberus onto his Intuos and said \"eat this, *dog*.\" I'm taking a different tack now, a breadcrumb trail, so that his mind is starving at the end of each book, and into that ravenous mind I will continuously heap works of burning fire and terrible consequence.'"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "http://www.penny-arcade.com/2010/1/13/\n\nIt's funny because the insult is 'dog'.\n\nBut it's also worth noting that the link is to Wikipedia. Since\npenny-arcade.com records a few hundred thousand hits a day (\nhttp://www.statsaholic.com/penny-arcade.com ), odds are good that this\nis most of the readers' first exposure to Wolfe. It will be\ninteresting to keep an eye on\nhttp://stats.grok.se/en/201001/The_Fifth_Head_of_Cerberus and see just\nhow much the article traffic spikes. If it doesn't go to at least a\nthousand, I will be disapointed :)\n\n--\ngwern\n_______________________________________________"
        }
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    {
      "message_id": "<44fb53d11001130851w6228b1f6r9aa95352601c442b@mail.gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Matthew Keeley",
        "address": "matthew.keeley.1 at gmail.com"
      },
      "date": "2010-01-13T16:51:41+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Fifth Head of Cerberus surfaces again",
      "in_reply_to": "<272706221001130638k65efacb0l5933d43394fc50d1@mail.gmail.com>",
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          "text": "Penny Arcade has mentioned The Book of the New Sun before. It was some\ntime before I'd read Wolfe, though I'd heard of him and had been\nmeaning to read him. I owe Penny Arcade some thanks for helping to\nkeep Wolfe in my mind.\n\n-Matt"
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