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This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 5561, "subject": "Pathos for Latros", "messages": 2, "voices": 2, "first": "2010-03-19T16:34:38+00:00", "last": "2010-03-19T21:19:34+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "<4a322928e1c85c142f2fbf50f2d26399.squirrel@email.fatcow.com>", "from": { "name": "Son of Witz", "address": "sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org" }, "date": "2010-03-19T16:34:38+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Pathos for Latros", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I just began part II of Soldier of Sidon this morning. I'm really loving\nthis book. Very spooky.\n\nIt's really easy to get caught up with Wolfes puzzle-boxes and amazing\nwriting chops, but now and then his books hit me on such an emotional\nlevel that I'm stunned. In Short Sun, the \"Oh Scylla\" exclamation had me\ncrying. In Sidon, chapters 27 & 28 have me close to tears. Were I reading\nit alone at home I might shed some, but as it was I read it on the train,\nso I manned up and choked em in. ;)\n\nIn 27 everything goes haywire, they are caught after escaping the mines.\nIn 28, he's in a sick bed, sold into slavery, and is saved / and saves\nMyt-Ser'eu. Poor Latro. I can't imagine having this dilemma. The moments\nwhere his love shines through his lack of memory, and he kills Kitty's\nabusers are heart wrenching.\n\nChapter 28 really illustrates his dilemma. Where would he be without a\nfriend to help him out? It's easy to read his story and almost forget the\nabsolute discontinuity of his experience. He has friends and a bit of the\nnight before to help him out. When he wakes up in the sick bed in Chap 28\nthough, he's really lost. He doesn't even know for sure if he is the \"L\"\nthat writes. Reading that really struck me. I'm not a man who looks back\nto the past very much at all, but these books make me extremely grateful\nfor memories and friends. I don't have the words to express how chilling\nthis chapter was for me.\n\nAnother aspect of Wolfe that amazes me is his ability to put himself into\nthis world and find the small details another writer wouldn't even\nimagine. It's simple details that summon profoundly human musing that\nreally floors me, such as the geese in this quote.\n\n[quote]\nGeese fly overhead, flying by night, calling like new boots across the sky\nto their fellows. It may be the last sound I hear. Every man hears a last\nsound. For many it must be the clash of arms. That is a good last sound,\nbut the shouts of geese is a better one. We sink into the earth, down\ninto the lands of the dead. Where I shall drink from Death's river to\nforget a life I cannot remember.\n[/quote]\n\nThis is a paragraph written by a man with remarkable depth of soul. Gene\nWolfe may be a great and tricky science-fantasy author, and a lot is made\nof his head scratching acrobatics, but first and foremost he is human with\na profound sense of empathy and an amazing gift for conveying it across\nthe gulf between our souls. I'm grateful to read his work. I think Latro\nmight be my favorite of his narrative voices. So very human.\n\n~Witz" } ] }, { "message_id": "<28e12.21fa7296.38d54466@aol.com>", "from": { "name": "PMorris33 at aol.com", "address": "pmorris33 at aol.com" }, "date": "2010-03-19T21:19:34+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Pathos for Latros", "in_reply_to": "<4a322928e1c85c142f2fbf50f2d26399.squirrel@email.fatcow.com>", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Does anyone know if there will be another book coming out in the Latros \nseries? \n \n \nIn a message dated 3/19/2010 2:07:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, \nurth-request at lists.urth.net writes:\n\nSend Urth mailing list submissions to\nurth at lists.urth.net\n\nTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit\nhttp://lists.urth.net/listinfo.cgi/urth-urth.net\nor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to\nurth-request at lists.urth.net\n\nYou can reach the person managing the list at\nurth-owner at lists.urth.net\n\nWhen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific\nthan \"Re: Contents of Urth digest...\"\n\n\nToday's Topics:\n\n1. Pathos for Latros (Son of Witz)" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "----------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nMessage: 1\nDate: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:34:38 -0400\nFrom: \"Son of Witz\" \nTo: Urth at urth.net\nSubject: (urth) Pathos for Latros\nMessage-ID:\n<4a322928e1c85c142f2fbf50f2d26399.squirrel at email.fatcow.com>\nContent-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1\n\nI just began part II of Soldier of Sidon this morning. I'm really loving\nthis book. Very spooky.\n\nIt's really easy to get caught up with Wolfes puzzle-boxes and amazing\nwriting chops, but now and then his books hit me on such an emotional\nlevel that I'm stunned. In Short Sun, the \"Oh Scylla\" exclamation had me\ncrying. In Sidon, chapters 27 & 28 have me close to tears. Were I reading\nit alone at home I might shed some, but as it was I read it on the train,\nso I manned up and choked em in. ;)\n\nIn 27 everything goes haywire, they are caught after escaping the mines.\nIn 28, he's in a sick bed, sold into slavery, and is saved / and saves\nMyt-Ser'eu. Poor Latro. I can't imagine having this dilemma. The moments\nwhere his love shines through his lack of memory, and he kills Kitty's\nabusers are heart wrenching.\n\nChapter 28 really illustrates his dilemma. Where would he be without a\nfriend to help him out? It's easy to read his story and almost forget the\nabsolute discontinuity of his experience. He has friends and a bit of the\nnight before to help him out. When he wakes up in the sick bed in Chap 28\nthough, he's really lost. He doesn't even know for sure if he is the \"L\"\nthat writes. Reading that really struck me. I'm not a man who looks back\nto the past very much at all, but these books make me extremely grateful\nfor memories and friends. I don't have the words to express how chilling\nthis chapter was for me.\n\nAnother aspect of Wolfe that amazes me is his ability to put himself into\nthis world and find the small details another writer wouldn't even\nimagine. It's simple details that summon profoundly human musing that\nreally floors me, such as the geese in this quote.\n\n[quote]\nGeese fly overhead, flying by night, calling like new boots across the sky\nto their fellows. It may be the last sound I hear. Every man hears a last\nsound. For many it must be the clash of arms. That is a good last sound,\nbut the shouts of geese is a better one. We sink into the earth, down\ninto the lands of the dead. Where I shall drink from Death's river to\nforget a life I cannot remember.\n[/quote]\n\nThis is a paragraph written by a man with remarkable depth of soul. Gene\nWolfe may be a great and tricky science-fantasy author, and a lot is made\nof his head scratching acrobatics, but first and foremost he is human with\na profound sense of empathy and an amazing gift for conveying it across\nthe gulf between our souls. I'm grateful to read his work. I think Latro\nmight be my favorite of his narrative voices. So very human.\n\n~Witz\n\n\n\n\n\n------------------------------" } ] } ] }