{ "export": { "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/5613", "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 5613, "subject": "urth crackdown!", "messages": 10, "voices": 6, "first": "2010-05-24T16:50:31+00:00", "last": "2010-05-24T18:01:50+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Ranjit Bhatnagar", "address": "ranjit at moonmilk.com" }, "date": "2010-05-24T16:50:31+00:00", "subject": "(urth) urth crackdown!", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Here comes the Argument From Authority! As list owner, I hereby decree:\n\nMark Twain's forthcoming memoirs are a reasonable topic of discussion here,\nbut don't go overboard.\n\nIt's a good idea to edit the subject line of a discussion to reflect the\ntopic being discussed, particularly if the discussion is drifting away from\nthe main point of the list, which is Gene Wolfe's work. It's not mandatory,\nthough, and it's not in itself a good topic of discussion on this list.\n\nActing like a jerk is always off-topic, even if the other guy started it.\n\nThis list has been around for almost 15 years with almost no moderation, and\nthis has almost always worked out just fine. Sometimes bickering has broken\nout, and some valuable members have left because of the noise. I'd prefer\nto keep that to a minimum.\n\nIf you have any complaints or comments about this decree, email me\ndirectly. Note that I wasn't calling YOU a jerk-- I was talking about that\nother guy.\n- Ranjit" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes", "address": "danldo at gmail.com" }, "date": "2010-05-24T16:52:33+00:00", "subject": "(urth) urth crackdown!", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Rome has spoken, and there is an end of the matter." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Ranjit Bhatnagar wrote:\nHere comes the Argument From Authority!? As list owner, I hereby decree:\n\nMark Twain's forthcoming memoirs are a reasonable topic of discussion here,\nbut don't go overboard.\n\nIt's a good idea to edit the subject line of a discussion to reflect the\ntopic being discussed, particularly if the discussion is drifting away from\nthe main point of the list, which is Gene Wolfe's work. It's not mandatory,\nthough, and it's not in itself a good topic of discussion on this list.\n\nActing like a jerk is always off-topic, even if the other guy started it.\n\nThis list has been around for almost 15 years with almost no moderation, and\nthis has almost always worked out just fine. Sometimes bickering has broken\nout, and some valuable members have left because of the noise. I'd prefer\nto keep that to a minimum.\n\nIf you have any complaints or comments about this decree, email me\ndirectly. Note that I wasn't calling YOU a jerk-- I was talking about that\nother guy.\n- Ranjit\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<10aaf0e9f4058435185706c649f73f50.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2010-05-24T16:53:30+00:00", "subject": "(urth) urth crackdown!", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "It's OK, Ranjit; I understand you aren't calling me a jerk.\n\nIt's very sweet of you to try not to hurt peoples feelings like this.\n\nYou're a nice person.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Here comes the Argument From Authority! As list owner, I hereby decree:\n\nMark Twain's forthcoming memoirs are a reasonable topic of discussion\nhere,\nbut don't go overboard.\n\nIt's a good idea to edit the subject line of a discussion to reflect the\ntopic being discussed, particularly if the discussion is drifting away\nfrom\nthe main point of the list, which is Gene Wolfe's work. It's not\nmandatory,\nthough, and it's not in itself a good topic of discussion on this list.\n\nActing like a jerk is always off-topic, even if the other guy started it.\n\nThis list has been around for almost 15 years with almost no moderation,\nand\nthis has almost always worked out just fine. Sometimes bickering has\nbroken\nout, and some valuable members have left because of the noise. I'd prefer\nto keep that to a minimum.\n\nIf you have any complaints or comments about this decree, email me\ndirectly. Note that I wasn't calling YOU a jerk-- I was talking about\nthat\nother guy.\n- Ranjit\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<2380508af6c8b08e39c4d224928ff8ad.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2010-05-24T16:54:41+00:00", "subject": "(urth) urth crackdown!", "in_reply_to": "<10aaf0e9f4058435185706c649f73f50.squirrel@brunians.org>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Sorry, that was meant to go directly to Ranjit.\n\nDarned mailer!\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "It's OK, Ranjit; I understand you aren't calling me a jerk.\n\nIt's very sweet of you to try not to hurt peoples feelings like this.\n\nYou're a nice person.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Here comes the Argument From Authority! As list owner, I hereby decree:\n\nMark Twain's forthcoming memoirs are a reasonable topic of discussion\nhere,\nbut don't go overboard.\n\nIt's a good idea to edit the subject line of a discussion to reflect the\ntopic being discussed, particularly if the discussion is drifting away\nfrom\nthe main point of the list, which is Gene Wolfe's work. It's not\nmandatory,\nthough, and it's not in itself a good topic of discussion on this list.\n\nActing like a jerk is always off-topic, even if the other guy started\nit.\n\nThis list has been around for almost 15 years with almost no moderation,\nand\nthis has almost always worked out just fine. Sometimes bickering has\nbroken\nout, and some valuable members have left because of the noise. I'd\nprefer\nto keep that to a minimum.\n\nIf you have any complaints or comments about this decree, email me\ndirectly. Note that I wasn't calling YOU a jerk-- I was talking about\nthat\nother guy.\n- Ranjit\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<4BFAB6B3.6090704@gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "James Wynn", "address": "crushtv at gmail.com" }, "date": "2010-05-24T17:26:11+00:00", "subject": "(urth) OT urth crackdown!", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Pax Romana" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On 5/24/2010 11:52 AM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:\nRome has spoken, and there is an end of the matter.\n\nOn Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Ranjit Bhatnagar wrote:\n " }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Here comes the Argument From Authority! As list owner, I hereby decree:\n\nMark Twain's forthcoming memoirs are a reasonable topic of discussion here,\nbut don't go overboard.\n\nIt's a good idea to edit the subject line of a discussion to reflect the\ntopic being discussed, particularly if the discussion is drifting away from\nthe main point of the list, which is Gene Wolfe's work. It's not mandatory,\nthough, and it's not in itself a good topic of discussion on this list.\n\nActing like a jerk is always off-topic, even if the other guy started it.\n\nThis list has been around for almost 15 years with almost no moderation, and\nthis has almost always worked out just fine. Sometimes bickering has broken\nout, and some valuable members have left because of the noise. I'd prefer\nto keep that to a minimum.\n\nIf you have any complaints or comments about this decree, email me\ndirectly. Note that I wasn't calling YOU a jerk-- I was talking about that\nother guy.\n- Ranjit\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Fred Kiesche", "address": "godelescherbach at gmail.com" }, "date": "2010-05-24T17:40:37+00:00", "subject": "(urth) OT urth crackdown!", "in_reply_to": "<4BFAB6B3.6090704@gmail.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Mark Twain has returned from the afterlife to do his memoirs? Cool!" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 1:26 PM, James Wynn wrote:\nPax Romana\n\nOn 5/24/2010 11:52 AM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Rome has spoken, and there is an end of the matter.\n\nOn Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Ranjit Bhatnagar\n wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Here comes the Argument From Authority! As list owner, I hereby decree:\n\nMark Twain's forthcoming memoirs are a reasonable topic of discussion\nhere,\nbut don't go overboard.\n\nIt's a good idea to edit the subject line of a discussion to reflect the\ntopic being discussed, particularly if the discussion is drifting away\nfrom\nthe main point of the list, which is Gene Wolfe's work. It's not\nmandatory,\nthough, and it's not in itself a good topic of discussion on this list.\n\nActing like a jerk is always off-topic, even if the other guy started it.\n\nThis list has been around for almost 15 years with almost no moderation,\nand\nthis has almost always worked out just fine. Sometimes bickering has\nbroken\nout, and some valuable members have left because of the noise. I'd\nprefer\nto keep that to a minimum.\n\nIf you have any complaints or comments about this decree, email me\ndirectly. Note that I wasn't calling YOU a jerk-- I was talking about\nthat\nother guy.\n- Ranjit\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Allan Anderson", "address": "rubel at goosemoon.org" }, "date": "2010-05-24T17:50:07+00:00", "subject": "(urth) OT urth crackdown!", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "He pretty much has. The first three volumes of bitter nearly-dead\nTwain invective are due out in November, after honoring his wish that\nthey not be published until 100 years after his death.\nTo warm up, consider reading his _Letters from Hawaii_:\nhttp://tinyurl.com/27vwcmu" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Fred Kiesche\n wrote:\n\nMark Twain has returned from the afterlife to do his memoirs? Cool!\n\nOn Mon, May 24, 2010 at 1:26 PM, James Wynn wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Pax Romana\n\nOn 5/24/2010 11:52 AM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Rome has spoken, and there is an end of the matter.\n\nOn Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Ranjit Bhatnagar ?wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "Here comes the Argument From Authority! ?As list owner, I hereby decree:\n\nMark Twain's forthcoming memoirs are a reasonable topic of discussion here,\nbut don't go overboard.\n\nIt's a good idea to edit the subject line of a discussion to reflect the\ntopic being discussed, particularly if the discussion is drifting away from\nthe main point of the list, which is Gene Wolfe's work. ?It's not mandatory,\nthough, and it's not in itself a good topic of discussion on this list.\n\nActing like a jerk is always off-topic, even if the other guy started it.\n\nThis list has been around for almost 15 years with almost no moderation, and\nthis has almost always worked out just fine. ?Sometimes bickering has broken\nout, and some valuable members have left because of the noise. ?I'd prefer\nto keep that to a minimum.\n\nIf you have any complaints or comments about this decree, email me\ndirectly. ?Note that I wasn't calling YOU a jerk-- I was talking about that\nother guy.\n- Ranjit\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes", "address": "danldo at gmail.com" }, "date": "2010-05-24T17:50:08+00:00", "subject": "(urth) OT urth crackdown!", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Actually, Twain left behind a huge and very frank autobiography and\ninstructions that it not be published for at least a century after his\ndeath. He died in 1910, and the first volume of a projected three will\nbe published in November." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Fred Kiesche\n wrote:\nMark Twain has returned from the afterlife to do his memoirs? Cool!\n\nOn Mon, May 24, 2010 at 1:26 PM, James Wynn wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Pax Romana\n\nOn 5/24/2010 11:52 AM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Rome has spoken, and there is an end of the matter.\n\nOn Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Ranjit Bhatnagar\n?wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "Here comes the Argument From Authority! ?As list owner, I hereby decree:\n\nMark Twain's forthcoming memoirs are a reasonable topic of discussion\nhere,\nbut don't go overboard.\n\nIt's a good idea to edit the subject line of a discussion to reflect the\ntopic being discussed, particularly if the discussion is drifting away\nfrom\nthe main point of the list, which is Gene Wolfe's work. ?It's not\nmandatory,\nthough, and it's not in itself a good topic of discussion on this list.\n\nActing like a jerk is always off-topic, even if the other guy started\nit.\n\nThis list has been around for almost 15 years with almost no moderation,\nand\nthis has almost always worked out just fine. ?Sometimes bickering has\nbroken\nout, and some valuable members have left because of the noise. ?I'd\nprefer\nto keep that to a minimum.\n\nIf you have any complaints or comments about this decree, email me\ndirectly. ?Note that I wasn't calling YOU a jerk-- I was talking about\nthat\nother guy.\n- Ranjit\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<636aa63022a0895f8a658b23d9412f1a.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2010-05-24T17:58:57+00:00", "subject": "(urth) OT urth crackdown!", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Wow.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Actually, Twain left behind a huge and very frank autobiography and\ninstructions that it not be published for at least a century after his\ndeath. He died in 1910, and the first volume of a projected three will\nbe published in November.\n\nOn Mon, May 24, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Fred Kiesche\n wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Mark Twain has returned from the afterlife to do his memoirs? Cool!\n\nOn Mon, May 24, 2010 at 1:26 PM, James Wynn wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Pax Romana\n\nOn 5/24/2010 11:52 AM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "Rome has spoken, and there is an end of the matter.\n\nOn Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Ranjit Bhatnagar\n?wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 5, "text": "Here comes the Argument From Authority! ?As list owner, I hereby\ndecree:\n\nMark Twain's forthcoming memoirs are a reasonable topic of discussion\nhere,\nbut don't go overboard.\n\nIt's a good idea to edit the subject line of a discussion to reflect\nthe\ntopic being discussed, particularly if the discussion is drifting\naway\nfrom\nthe main point of the list, which is Gene Wolfe's work. ?It's not\nmandatory,\nthough, and it's not in itself a good topic of discussion on this\nlist.\n\nActing like a jerk is always off-topic, even if the other guy started\nit.\n\nThis list has been around for almost 15 years with almost no\nmoderation,\nand\nthis has almost always worked out just fine. ?Sometimes bickering has\nbroken\nout, and some valuable members have left because of the noise. ?I'd\nprefer\nto keep that to a minimum.\n\nIf you have any complaints or comments about this decree, email me\ndirectly. ?Note that I wasn't calling YOU a jerk-- I was talking\nabout\nthat\nother guy.\n- Ranjit\n\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Fred Kiesche", "address": "godelescherbach at gmail.com" }, "date": "2010-05-24T18:01:50+00:00", "subject": "(urth) OT urth crackdown!", "in_reply_to": "<636aa63022a0895f8a658b23d9412f1a.squirrel@brunians.org>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Now I can hope for the discovery of \"The Jet Black Shore\", the 22nd\nAubrey-Maturin novel by Patrick O'Brian..." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 1:58 PM, wrote:\nWow.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Actually, Twain left behind a huge and very frank autobiography and\ninstructions that it not be published for at least a century after his\ndeath. He died in 1910, and the first volume of a projected three will\nbe published in November.\n\nOn Mon, May 24, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Fred Kiesche\n wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Mark Twain has returned from the afterlife to do his memoirs? Cool!\n\nOn Mon, May 24, 2010 at 1:26 PM, James Wynn wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "Pax Romana\n\nOn 5/24/2010 11:52 AM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 5, "text": "Rome has spoken, and there is an end of the matter.\n\nOn Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Ranjit Bhatnagar