urth crackdown! The Urth list — 10 messages, 6 voices, 24 May 2010 https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/5613 Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. ============================================================================== Ranjit Bhatnagar — 24 May 2010, 16:50 Here comes the Argument From Authority! As list owner, I hereby decree: Mark Twain's forthcoming memoirs are a reasonable topic of discussion here, but don't go overboard. It's a good idea to edit the subject line of a discussion to reflect the topic being discussed, particularly if the discussion is drifting away from the main point of the list, which is Gene Wolfe's work. It's not mandatory, though, and it's not in itself a good topic of discussion on this list. Acting like a jerk is always off-topic, even if the other guy started it. This list has been around for almost 15 years with almost no moderation, and this has almost always worked out just fine. Sometimes bickering has broken out, and some valuable members have left because of the noise. I'd prefer to keep that to a minimum. If you have any complaints or comments about this decree, email me directly. Note that I wasn't calling YOU a jerk-- I was talking about that other guy. - Ranjit ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan'l Danehy-Oakes — 24 May 2010, 16:52 in reply to Ranjit Bhatnagar Rome has spoken, and there is an end of the matter. > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Ranjit Bhatnagar wrote: > Here comes the Argument From Authority!? As list owner, I hereby decree: > > Mark Twain's forthcoming memoirs are a reasonable topic of discussion here, > but don't go overboard. > > It's a good idea to edit the subject line of a discussion to reflect the > topic being discussed, particularly if the discussion is drifting away from > the main point of the list, which is Gene Wolfe's work. It's not mandatory, > though, and it's not in itself a good topic of discussion on this list. > > Acting like a jerk is always off-topic, even if the other guy started it. > > This list has been around for almost 15 years with almost no moderation, and > this has almost always worked out just fine. Sometimes bickering has broken > out, and some valuable members have left because of the noise. I'd prefer > to keep that to a minimum. > > If you have any complaints or comments about this decree, email me > directly. Note that I wasn't calling YOU a jerk-- I was talking about that > other guy. > - Ranjit > > > > > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ brunians at brunians.org — 24 May 2010, 16:53 in reply to Ranjit Bhatnagar It's OK, Ranjit; I understand you aren't calling me a jerk. It's very sweet of you to try not to hurt peoples feelings like this. You're a nice person. . > Here comes the Argument From Authority! As list owner, I hereby decree: > > Mark Twain's forthcoming memoirs are a reasonable topic of discussion > here, > but don't go overboard. > > It's a good idea to edit the subject line of a discussion to reflect the > topic being discussed, particularly if the discussion is drifting away > from > the main point of the list, which is Gene Wolfe's work. It's not > mandatory, > though, and it's not in itself a good topic of discussion on this list. > > Acting like a jerk is always off-topic, even if the other guy started it. > > This list has been around for almost 15 years with almost no moderation, > and > this has almost always worked out just fine. Sometimes bickering has > broken > out, and some valuable members have left because of the noise. I'd prefer > to keep that to a minimum. > > If you have any complaints or comments about this decree, email me > directly. Note that I wasn't calling YOU a jerk-- I was talking about > that > other guy. > - Ranjit > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ brunians at brunians.org — 24 May 2010, 16:54 in reply to brunians at brunians.org Sorry, that was meant to go directly to Ranjit. Darned mailer! . > It's OK, Ranjit; I understand you aren't calling me a jerk. > > It's very sweet of you to try not to hurt peoples feelings like this. > > You're a nice person. > > . > > Here comes the Argument From Authority! As list owner, I hereby decree: > > > > Mark Twain's forthcoming memoirs are a reasonable topic of discussion > > here, > > but don't go overboard. > > > > It's a good idea to edit the subject line of a discussion to reflect the > > topic being discussed, particularly if the discussion is drifting away > > from > > the main point of the list, which is Gene Wolfe's work. It's not > > mandatory, > > though, and it's not in itself a good topic of discussion on this list. > > > > Acting like a jerk is always off-topic, even if the other guy started > > it. > > > > This list has been around for almost 15 years with almost no moderation, > > and > > this has almost always worked out just fine. Sometimes bickering has > > broken > > out, and some valuable members have left because of the noise. I'd > > prefer > > to keep that to a minimum. > > > > If you have any complaints or comments about this decree, email me > > directly. Note that I wasn't calling YOU a jerk-- I was talking about > > that > > other guy. > > - Ranjit > > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ James Wynn — 24 May 2010, 17:26 in reply to Dan'l Danehy-Oakes Pax Romana > On 5/24/2010 11:52 AM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote: > Rome has spoken, and there is an end of the matter. > > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Ranjit Bhatnagar wrote: > > > Here comes the Argument From Authority! As list owner, I hereby decree: > > > > Mark Twain's forthcoming memoirs are a reasonable topic of discussion here, > > but don't go overboard. > > > > It's a good idea to edit the subject line of a discussion to reflect the > > topic being discussed, particularly if the discussion is drifting away from > > the main point of the list, which is Gene Wolfe's work. It's not mandatory, > > though, and it's not in itself a good topic of discussion on this list. > > > > Acting like a jerk is always off-topic, even if the other guy started it. > > > > This list has been around for almost 15 years with almost no moderation, and > > this has almost always worked out just fine. Sometimes bickering has broken > > out, and some valuable members have left because of the noise. I'd prefer > > to keep that to a minimum. > > > > If you have any complaints or comments about this decree, email me > > directly. Note that I wasn't calling YOU a jerk-- I was talking about that > > other guy. > > - Ranjit > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fred Kiesche — 24 May 2010, 17:40 in reply to James Wynn Mark Twain has returned from the afterlife to do his memoirs? Cool! > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 1:26 PM, James Wynn wrote: > Pax Romana > > On 5/24/2010 11:52 AM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote: > > Rome has spoken, and there is an end of the matter. > > > > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Ranjit Bhatnagar > > wrote: > > > Here comes the Argument From Authority! As list owner, I hereby decree: > > > > > > Mark Twain's forthcoming memoirs are a reasonable topic of discussion > > > here, > > > but don't go overboard. > > > > > > It's a good idea to edit the subject line of a discussion to reflect the > > > topic being discussed, particularly if the discussion is drifting away > > > from > > > the main point of the list, which is Gene Wolfe's work. It's not > > > mandatory, > > > though, and it's not in itself a good topic of discussion on this list. > > > > > > Acting like a jerk is always off-topic, even if the other guy started it. > > > > > > This list has been around for almost 15 years with almost no moderation, > > > and > > > this has almost always worked out just fine. Sometimes bickering has > > > broken > > > out, and some valuable members have left because of the noise. I'd > > > prefer > > > to keep that to a minimum. > > > > > > If you have any complaints or comments about this decree, email me > > > directly. Note that I wasn't calling YOU a jerk-- I was talking about > > > that > > > other guy. > > > - Ranjit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Allan Anderson — 24 May 2010, 17:50 in reply to Fred Kiesche He pretty much has. The first three volumes of bitter nearly-dead Twain invective are due out in November, after honoring his wish that they not be published until 100 years after his death. To warm up, consider reading his _Letters from Hawaii_: http://tinyurl.com/27vwcmu > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Fred Kiesche > wrote: > > Mark Twain has returned from the afterlife to do his memoirs? Cool! > > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 1:26 PM, James Wynn wrote: > > Pax Romana > > > > On 5/24/2010 11:52 AM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote: > > > Rome has spoken, and there is an end of the matter. > > > > > > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Ranjit Bhatnagar ?wrote: > > > > Here comes the Argument From Authority! ?As list owner, I hereby decree: > > > > > > > > Mark Twain's forthcoming memoirs are a reasonable topic of discussion here, > > > > but don't go overboard. > > > > > > > > It's a good idea to edit the subject line of a discussion to reflect the > > > > topic being discussed, particularly if the discussion is drifting away from > > > > the main point of the list, which is Gene Wolfe's work. ?It's not mandatory, > > > > though, and it's not in itself a good topic of discussion on this list. > > > > > > > > Acting like a jerk is always off-topic, even if the other guy started it. > > > > > > > > This list has been around for almost 15 years with almost no moderation, and > > > > this has almost always worked out just fine. ?Sometimes bickering has broken > > > > out, and some valuable members have left because of the noise. ?I'd prefer > > > > to keep that to a minimum. > > > > > > > > If you have any complaints or comments about this decree, email me > > > > directly. ?Note that I wasn't calling YOU a jerk-- I was talking about that > > > > other guy. > > > > - Ranjit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan'l Danehy-Oakes — 24 May 2010, 17:50 in reply to Fred Kiesche Actually, Twain left behind a huge and very frank autobiography and instructions that it not be published for at least a century after his death. He died in 1910, and the first volume of a projected three will be published in November. > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Fred Kiesche > wrote: > Mark Twain has returned from the afterlife to do his memoirs? Cool! > > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 1:26 PM, James Wynn wrote: > > Pax Romana > > > > On 5/24/2010 11:52 AM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote: > > > Rome has spoken, and there is an end of the matter. > > > > > > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Ranjit Bhatnagar > > > ?wrote: > > > > Here comes the Argument From Authority! ?As list owner, I hereby decree: > > > > > > > > Mark Twain's forthcoming memoirs are a reasonable topic of discussion > > > > here, > > > > but don't go overboard. > > > > > > > > It's a good idea to edit the subject line of a discussion to reflect the > > > > topic being discussed, particularly if the discussion is drifting away > > > > from > > > > the main point of the list, which is Gene Wolfe's work. ?It's not > > > > mandatory, > > > > though, and it's not in itself a good topic of discussion on this list. > > > > > > > > Acting like a jerk is always off-topic, even if the other guy started > > > > it. > > > > > > > > This list has been around for almost 15 years with almost no moderation, > > > > and > > > > this has almost always worked out just fine. ?Sometimes bickering has > > > > broken > > > > out, and some valuable members have left because of the noise. ?I'd > > > > prefer > > > > to keep that to a minimum. > > > > > > > > If you have any complaints or comments about this decree, email me > > > > directly. ?Note that I wasn't calling YOU a jerk-- I was talking about > > > > that > > > > other guy. > > > > - Ranjit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ brunians at brunians.org — 24 May 2010, 17:58 in reply to Dan'l Danehy-Oakes Wow. . > Actually, Twain left behind a huge and very frank autobiography and > instructions that it not be published for at least a century after his > death. He died in 1910, and the first volume of a projected three will > be published in November. > > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Fred Kiesche > wrote: > > Mark Twain has returned from the afterlife to do his memoirs? Cool! > > > > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 1:26 PM, James Wynn wrote: > > > Pax Romana > > > > > > On 5/24/2010 11:52 AM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote: > > > > Rome has spoken, and there is an end of the matter. > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Ranjit Bhatnagar > > > > ?wrote: > > > > > Here comes the Argument From Authority! ?As list owner, I hereby > > > > > decree: > > > > > > > > > > Mark Twain's forthcoming memoirs are a reasonable topic of discussion > > > > > here, > > > > > but don't go overboard. > > > > > > > > > > It's a good idea to edit the subject line of a discussion to reflect > > > > > the > > > > > topic being discussed, particularly if the discussion is drifting > > > > > away > > > > > from > > > > > the main point of the list, which is Gene Wolfe's work. ?It's not > > > > > mandatory, > > > > > though, and it's not in itself a good topic of discussion on this > > > > > list. > > > > > > > > > > Acting like a jerk is always off-topic, even if the other guy started > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > This list has been around for almost 15 years with almost no > > > > > moderation, > > > > > and > > > > > this has almost always worked out just fine. ?Sometimes bickering has > > > > > broken > > > > > out, and some valuable members have left because of the noise. ?I'd > > > > > prefer > > > > > to keep that to a minimum. > > > > > > > > > > If you have any complaints or comments about this decree, email me > > > > > directly. ?Note that I wasn't calling YOU a jerk-- I was talking > > > > > about > > > > > that > > > > > other guy. > > > > > - Ranjit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fred Kiesche — 24 May 2010, 18:01 in reply to brunians at brunians.org Now I can hope for the discovery of "The Jet Black Shore", the 22nd Aubrey-Maturin novel by Patrick O'Brian... > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 1:58 PM, wrote: > Wow. > > . > > Actually, Twain left behind a huge and very frank autobiography and > > instructions that it not be published for at least a century after his > > death. He died in 1910, and the first volume of a projected three will > > be published in November. > > > > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Fred Kiesche > > wrote: > > > Mark Twain has returned from the afterlife to do his memoirs? Cool! > > > > > > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 1:26 PM, James Wynn wrote: > > > > Pax Romana > > > > > > > > On 5/24/2010 11:52 AM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote: > > > > > Rome has spoken, and there is an end of the matter. > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Ranjit Bhatnagar > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Here comes the Argument From Authority! As list owner, I hereby > > > > > > decree: > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark Twain's forthcoming memoirs are a reasonable topic of discussion > > > > > > here, > > > > > > but don't go overboard. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a good idea to edit the subject line of a discussion to reflect > > > > > > the > > > > > > topic being discussed, particularly if the discussion is drifting > > > > > > away > > > > > > from > > > > > > the main point of the list, which is Gene Wolfe's work. It's not > > > > > > mandatory, > > > > > > though, and it's not in itself a good topic of discussion on this > > > > > > list. > > > > > > > > > > > > Acting like a jerk is always off-topic, even if the other guy started > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > This list has been around for almost 15 years with almost no > > > > > > moderation, > > > > > > and > > > > > > this has almost always worked out just fine. Sometimes bickering has > > > > > > broken > > > > > > out, and some valuable members have left because of the noise. I'd > > > > > > prefer > > > > > > to keep that to a minimum. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have any complaints or comments about this decree, email me > > > > > > directly. Note that I wasn't calling YOU a jerk-- I was talking > > > > > > about > > > > > > that > > > > > > other guy. > > > > > > - Ranjit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------