# Urth Digest, Vol 71, Issue 41 *The Urth list — 2 messages, 2 voices, 06 Jul 2010* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Tim O'Donnell *06 Jul 2010, 14:38* Borski would approve ______ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 08:19:09 -0400 From: John Watkins To: The Urth Mailing List Subject: Re: (urth) The mystery of the image of an astronaut cleaned by Rudesind Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Wait a minute now. Severian goes out of his way to heal the girl in *Sword of the Lictor*. That was an unusual display of compassion/interest for Severian, and we've only routinely seen him so interest in women for one reason. So Severian is himself Inire. And healing a young girl who was head/near-dying is pretty much a direct reference to the Talitha cumi incident. So Severian is Inire and Jesus as well. And Lewis Carroll. (Note--Talitha cumi, or Talitha cum*aean*? The pun is a bit too on-the-nose. Maybe the Cumaean is also the girl Severian raised, through time travel? Sure, one's a girl and one's a...snaky thing, but given the Tzadkiel precedent and the abundance of masks I feel this is a valid possibility.) Now, there was also an X-Files episode called Talitha Cumi, but unless Gene himself is time-travelling (which I suppose we can't rule out, given *Peace*) I doubt it could have any connection to the Book of the New Sun, despite the character who heals people miraculously, the concealed identities, the hidden aliens, and the missing family members. Actually, maybe I need to check *Peace *out again... --- ### Jane Delawney *06 Jul 2010, 22:46 · in reply to Tim O'Donnell* > On 06/07/10 15:38, Tim O'Donnell wrote: > Borski would approve > > Which is either a a recommendation or a warning. have to say I find quite a number of Borski's interpretations more than somewhat fanciful. Was intending to ask about this on list but Tim got in there ahead of me - making me wonder if there might be a 'consensus' regarding Borski ... if he's on this list I have missed him, Ohai Robert if you're out there, I have read your stuff with huge amounts of interest but also some skepticism! As usual modifying the header because if I don't I will not receive my post on list or otherwise, stoopid ISP :) jd > ______ > > Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 08:19:09 -0400 > From: John Watkins > To: The Urth Mailing List > Subject: Re: (urth) The mystery of the image of an astronaut cleaned > by Rudesind > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > Wait a minute now. Severian goes out of his way to heal the girl in *Sword > of the Lictor*. That was an unusual display of compassion/interest for > Severian, and we've only routinely seen him so interest in women for one > reason. So Severian is himself Inire. > And healing a young girl who was head/near-dying is pretty much a direct > reference to the Talitha cumi incident. So Severian is Inire and Jesus as > well. And Lewis Carroll. (Note--Talitha cumi, or Talitha cum*aean*? The > pun is a bit too on-the-nose. Maybe the Cumaean is also the girl Severian > raised, through time travel? Sure, one's a girl and one's a...snaky thing, > but given the Tzadkiel precedent and the abundance of masks I feel this is a > valid possibility.) > Now, there was also an X-Files episode called Talitha Cumi, but unless Gene > himself is time-travelling (which I suppose we can't rule out, given > *Peace*) > I doubt it could have any connection to the Book of the New Sun, despite the > character who heals people miraculously, the concealed identities, the > hidden aliens, and the missing family members. Actually, maybe I need to > check *Peace *out again... > > > > > _______________________________________________ ---