{ "export": { "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/5659", "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 5659, "subject": "Fortunate Cloud", "messages": 7, "voices": 4, "first": "2010-07-12T14:12:49+00:00", "last": "2010-07-12T18:13:21+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Mr Thalassocrat", "address": "thalassocrat08 at gmail.com" }, "date": "2010-07-12T14:12:49+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Fortunate Cloud", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "(The name of Jonas' ship.) This may well have been pointed out a gadzillion\nyears ago, but I don't remember ever seeing it. Apparently a \"lucky cloud\"\nis a very common traditional Chinese image. It was used extensively for the\nBeijing Olympics: eg\nhttp://colorbuzz.valsparblog.com/2008/08/the-lucky-cloud.html" } ] }, { "message_id": "<2512DC8EE3CB42C7A9F2A5B3656E5878@jill>", "from": { "name": "Gerry Quinn", "address": "gerryq at indigo.ie" }, "date": "2010-07-12T14:26:29+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Fortunate Cloud", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "It also fits with Jonas's description of names from his time which were similat to modern-day Chinese names.\n\nOFC 'Jonas' is not very Chinese.\n\n- Gerry Quinn\n\n From: Mr Thalassocrat \n\n\n (The name of Jonas' ship.) This may well have been pointed out a gadzillion years ago, but I don't remember ever seeing it. Apparently a \"lucky cloud\" is a very common traditional Chinese image. It was used extensively for the Beijing Olympics: eg http://colorbuzz.valsparblog.com/2008/08/the-lucky-cloud.html" } ] }, { "message_id": "<4C3B402A.2020406@gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "António Pedro Marques", "address": "entonio at gmail.com" }, "date": "2010-07-12T16:17:46+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Fortunate Cloud", "in_reply_to": "<2512DC8EE3CB42C7A9F2A5B3656E5878@jill>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Gerry Quinn wrote (12-07-2010 15:26):" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "It also fits with Jonas's description of names from his time which were\nsimilat to modern-day Chinese names.\nOFC 'Jonas' is not very Chinese." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "It may be a misheard korean name." } ] }, { "message_id": "<293523239E6A4B239DCD3E04068913BB@jill>", "from": { "name": "Gerry Quinn", "address": "gerryq at indigo.ie" }, "date": "2010-07-12T16:56:25+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Fortunate Cloud", "in_reply_to": "<4C3B402A.2020406@gmail.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "From: \"Ant?nio Pedro Marques\" \nGerry Quinn wrote (12-07-2010 15:26):" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "It also fits with Jonas's description of names from his time which were\nsimilat to modern-day Chinese names.\nOFC 'Jonas' is not very Chinese." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "It may be a misheard korean name." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Maybe... but it doesn't sound Korean to me either.\n\nOr he might be JONAS... Janitorial, Office, and Navigational Assistance \nServomechanism.\n\n(BTW, I said Chinese, the place I actually associate the names Jonas \nreferred to with is Singapore, not that I know very much about what people \nare actually called in either place.)\n\n- Gerry Quinn" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "John Watkins", "address": "john.watkins04 at gmail.com" }, "date": "2010-07-12T16:59:11+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Fortunate Cloud", "in_reply_to": "<293523239E6A4B239DCD3E04068913BB@jill>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Isn't one of the names \"Kim Lee Soong\"?\n\nIt's Korean." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Gerry Quinn wrote:\nFrom: \"Ant?nio Pedro Marques\" \n\n\nGerry Quinn wrote (12-07-2010 15:26):" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "It also fits with Jonas's description of names from his time which were\nsimilat to modern-day Chinese names.\nOFC 'Jonas' is not very Chinese." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "It may be a misheard korean name." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Maybe... but it doesn't sound Korean to me either.\n\nOr he might be JONAS... Janitorial, Office, and Navigational Assistance\nServomechanism.\n\n(BTW, I said Chinese, the place I actually associate the names Jonas\nreferred to with is Singapore, not that I know very much about what people\nare actually called in either place.)\n\n- Gerry Quinn\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<4C3B596D.2070900@gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "António Pedro Marques", "address": "entonio at gmail.com" }, "date": "2010-07-12T18:05:33+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Fortunate Cloud", "in_reply_to": "<293523239E6A4B239DCD3E04068913BB@jill>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Gerry Quinn wrote (12-07-2010 17:56):" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "From: \"Ant?nio Pedro Marques\" " }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Gerry Quinn wrote (12-07-2010 15:26):" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "It also fits with Jonas's description of names from his time which were\nsimilat to modern-day Chinese names.\nOFC 'Jonas' is not very Chinese." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "It may be a misheard korean name." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Maybe... but it doesn't sound Korean to me either." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Well, I don't know korean, so..." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "John Watkins", "address": "john.watkins04 at gmail.com" }, "date": "2010-07-12T18:13:21+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Fortunate Cloud", "in_reply_to": "<4C3B596D.2070900@gmail.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "\"Kim\" is the most common family name in Korea. If one wanted to pick an\niconic Korean name, it would be \"Kim,\" with \"Park\" as the probable\nrunner-up. It also means \"gold,\" or rather is homonymous with the Korean\nword for \"gold.\"\nNow, \"Kim\" is also a Chinese name, but the Chinese name is sometimes\nAnglicized \"Jin.\" I'm not sure how many Korean names there are that have no\nChinese equivalent or cognate.\n\n\n2010/7/12 Ant?nio Pedro Marques " }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Gerry Quinn wrote (12-07-2010 17:56):\n\nFrom: \"Ant?nio Pedro Marques\" " }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Gerry Quinn wrote (12-07-2010 15:26):" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "It also fits with Jonas's description of names from his time which were\nsimilat to modern-day Chinese names.\nOFC 'Jonas' is not very Chinese." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "It may be a misheard korean name." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Maybe... but it doesn't sound Korean to me either." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Well, I don't know korean, so...\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] } ] }