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This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 5686, "subject": "Severian and the corridor of time.", "messages": 25, "voices": 9, "first": "2010-08-04T00:33:50+00:00", "last": "2010-08-04T22:10:50+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Jason Walker", "address": "jasonlancewalker at gmail.com" }, "date": "2010-08-04T00:33:50+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Severian and the corridor of time.", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "In Urth of the new Sun, Severian travel back through the corridor of time to\nthe ancient civilization and becomes Apu-Punchau. He goes to that time\nbecause that is the time when the new sun is created and cannot go back any\nfurther his powers come from the new sun and cannot go back any further than\nit was created. But then once he gets there he does not have any of his\npowers and the Hierodules say that this is because the light from the New\nSun gives him his power and this light has not yet reached Urth. According\nto this, he should only of been able to travel back to where the New Sun's\nlight has came to Urth.\nI am missing something or do this not make any sense to anyone else as well.\nIs the corridor of time outside of time/space and only needs the power from\nthe New Sun to access it, but then he should be able to travel to anytime he\nwants, even before the new sun was created.\nI am just looking at someone else's input on this." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Jeff Wilson", "address": "jwilson at io.com" }, "date": "2010-08-04T01:09:46+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Severian and the corridor of time.", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Is the corridor of time outside of time/space and only needs the power\nfrom\nthe New Sun to access it" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "We don't know for sure. The business about moving in a direction not seen\nbefore suggests that movement om higher spatial dimension is involved.\nThe power of the New Sun may not be needed in general, but it may be that\n*Severian* needs the power of the White Fountain to achieve that movement.\nAll the other folks that travel the Corridors seem to do it in ways that\nare light-related in some way (mirrors, reflective sails) or the travelers\nthemselves are light-related (the Green Man, the Hierdules presumably make\nboth the time-spanning saucers, the White Fountain, and the sun of Yesod),\nexcept for Juturna, which is why I think she is secretly related to\nSeverian." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "but then he should be able to travel to anytime\nhe\nwants, even before the new sun was created.\nI am just looking at someone else's input on this." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Once in the Corridors, he may be able to travel any distance on either\nFountain-power or human muscle power, and then step down into the normal\nworld of four dimensions. But without the White Fountain or a similar\npower source to draw on, he can't go back up to the Corridors. It may be\nthat he decides to write URTH at all because with the White Fountain\ncontained, concealed, or even consumed by the new sun, he is stuck in the\nearly time centuries of Ushas , and is making the best of his forced\nretirement from saviorhood." } ] }, { "message_id": "<4C58C140.2030306@verizon.net>", "from": { "name": "David Stockhoff", "address": "dstockhoff at verizon.net" }, "date": "2010-08-04T01:24:16+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Severian and the corridor of time.", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Maybe he skidded past the exact point where the light reaches Urth, \nbecause he was going so fast." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Jeff Wilson wrote:\nIs the corridor of time outside of time/space and only needs the power\nfrom\nthe New Sun to access it\n " }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "We don't know for sure. The business about moving in a direction not seen\nbefore suggests that movement om higher spatial dimension is involved.\nThe power of the New Sun may not be needed in general, but it may be that\n*Severian* needs the power of the White Fountain to achieve that movement.\nAll the other folks that travel the Corridors seem to do it in ways that\nare light-related in some way (mirrors, reflective sails) or the travelers\nthemselves are light-related (the Green Man, the Hierdules presumably make\nboth the time-spanning saucers, the White Fountain, and the sun of Yesod),\nexcept for Juturna, which is why I think she is secretly related to\nSeverian.\n\n " }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "but then he should be able to travel to anytime\nhe\nwants, even before the new sun was created.\nI am just looking at someone else's input on this.\n " }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Once in the Corridors, he may be able to travel any distance on either\nFountain-power or human muscle power, and then step down into the normal\nworld of four dimensions. But without the White Fountain or a similar\npower source to draw on, he can't go back up to the Corridors. It may be\nthat he decides to write URTH at all because with the White Fountain\ncontained, concealed, or even consumed by the new sun, he is stuck in the\nearly time centuries of Ushas , and is making the best of his forced\nretirement from saviorhood.\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<5407607a96c4278e625ce62a8cda1e78.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2010-08-04T03:39:37+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Severian and the corridor of time.", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Oooo, another JW!\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "In Urth of the new Sun, Severian travel back through the corridor of time\nto\nthe ancient civilization and becomes Apu-Punchau. He goes to that time\nbecause that is the time when the new sun is created and cannot go back\nany\nfurther his powers come from the new sun and cannot go back any further\nthan\nit was created. But then once he gets there he does not have any of his\npowers and the Hierodules say that this is because the light from the New\nSun gives him his power and this light has not yet reached Urth. According\nto this, he should only of been able to travel back to where the New Sun's\nlight has came to Urth.\nI am missing something or do this not make any sense to anyone else as\nwell.\nIs the corridor of time outside of time/space and only needs the power\nfrom\nthe New Sun to access it, but then he should be able to travel to anytime\nhe\nwants, even before the new sun was created.\nI am just looking at someone else's input on this.\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes", "address": "danldo at gmail.com" }, "date": "2010-08-04T15:34:35+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Severian and the corridor of time.", "in_reply_to": "<5407607a96c4278e625ce62a8cda1e78.squirrel@brunians.org>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 8:39 PM, wrote:\n\nOooo, another JW!" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Maybe they're all Jehovah's Witnesses?\n\n(Badabing)" }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2010-08-04T15:38:10+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Severian and the corridor of time.", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I've considered the possibility.\n\nProbably not.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 8:39 PM, wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Oooo, another JW!" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Maybe they're all Jehovah's Witnesses?\n\n(Badabing)\n\n--\nDan'l Danehy-Oakes\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<98c97dd662e7089980197b20ca28142d.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2010-08-04T15:38:20+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Severian and the corridor of time.", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I've considered the possibility.\n\nProbably not.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 8:39 PM, wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Oooo, another JW!" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Maybe they're all Jehovah's Witnesses?\n\n(Badabing)\n\n--\nDan'l Danehy-Oakes\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2010-08-04T15:39:22+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Severian and the corridor of time.", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "The probability they are all David Stockhoff is higher than this, and also\nquite low.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 8:39 PM, wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Oooo, another JW!" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Maybe they're all Jehovah's Witnesses?\n\n(Badabing)\n\n--\nDan'l Danehy-Oakes\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "John Watkins", "address": "john.watkins04 at gmail.com" }, "date": "2010-08-04T16:01:12+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Severian and the corridor of time.", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I am not a Jehovah's Witness." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 11:39 AM, wrote:\n\nThe probability they are all David Stockhoff is higher than this, and also\nquite low.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 8:39 PM, wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Oooo, another JW!" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Maybe they're all Jehovah's Witnesses?\n\n(Badabing)\n\n--\nDan'l Danehy-Oakes\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes", "address": "danldo at gmail.com" }, "date": "2010-08-04T16:03:12+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Severian and the corridor of time.", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Ah, but I notice you fail to deny that you are David Stockhoff..." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 9:01 AM, John Watkins wrote:\nI am not a Jehovah's Witness.\n\nOn Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 11:39 AM, wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "The probability they are all David Stockhoff is higher than this, and also\nquite low.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 8:39 PM, ? wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "Oooo, another JW!" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Maybe they're all Jehovah's Witnesses?\n\n(Badabing)\n\n--\nDan'l Danehy-Oakes\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<72372aad3fd65a76ba6f5c52284f2214.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2010-08-04T16:19:13+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Severian and the corridor of time.", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "All of the JW's except possibly the new one are pretty stupid.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Ah, but I notice you fail to deny that you are David Stockhoff...\n\nOn Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 9:01 AM, John Watkins \nwrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "I am not a Jehovah's Witness.\n\nOn Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 11:39 AM, wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "The probability they are all David Stockhoff is higher than this, and\nalso\nquite low.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 8:39 PM, ? wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 5, "text": "Oooo, another JW!" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "Maybe they're all Jehovah's Witnesses?\n\n(Badabing)\n\n--\nDan'l Danehy-Oakes\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<7e35fa10655bbaeb70c90a709541d265.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2010-08-04T16:19:36+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Severian and the corridor of time.", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Equally stupid.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Ah, but I notice you fail to deny that you are David Stockhoff...\n\nOn Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 9:01 AM, John Watkins \nwrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "I am not a Jehovah's Witness.\n\nOn Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 11:39 AM, wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "The probability they are all David Stockhoff is higher than this, and\nalso\nquite low.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 8:39 PM, ? wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 5, "text": "Oooo, another JW!" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "Maybe they're all Jehovah's Witnesses?\n\n(Badabing)\n\n--\nDan'l Danehy-Oakes\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<4C599F20.9030504@io.com>", "from": { "name": "Jeff Wilson", "address": "jwilson at io.com" }, "date": "2010-08-04T17:10:56+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Severian and the corridor of time.", "in_reply_to": "<4C58C140.2030306@verizon.net>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On 8/3/2010 8:24 PM, David Stockhoff wrote:\nMaybe he skidded past the exact point where the light reaches Urth,\nbecause he was going so fast." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Like a ship running aground, sure. His desperation of his existence as \nthe destroyer of Urth may have given him some extra heedless speed until \nhe overshoots the early end of the White Fountain's light and is \ndeposited on the pampas early Incan or pre-Incan pampas." }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com\nIEEE Student Chapter Blog at\n< http://ieeetamut.org >" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2010-08-04T17:16:08+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Severian and the corridor of time.", "in_reply_to": "<4C599F20.9030504@io.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "When was Severian ever desperate?\n\nWhy, Wilson, do you want Severian to be a weaker person than he is?\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On 8/3/2010 8:24 PM, David Stockhoff wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Maybe he skidded past the exact point where the light reaches Urth,\nbecause he was going so fast." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Like a ship running aground, sure. His desperation of his existence as\nthe destroyer of Urth may have given him some extra heedless speed until\nhe overshoots the early end of the White Fountain's light and is\ndeposited on the pampas early Incan or pre-Incan pampas.\n\n--\nJeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com\nIEEE Student Chapter Blog at\n< http://ieeetamut.org >\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2010-08-04T17:17:16+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Severian and the corridor of time.", "in_reply_to": "<4C599F20.9030504@io.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "It's not like I'm going to come and cut your left testicle off with a knife.\n\nI don't actually do that kind of thing.\n\nIt's done by doctors in hospitals these days.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On 8/3/2010 8:24 PM, David Stockhoff wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Maybe he skidded past the exact point where the light reaches Urth,\nbecause he was going so fast." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Like a ship running aground, sure. His desperation of his existence as\nthe destroyer of Urth may have given him some extra heedless speed until\nhe overshoots the early end of the White Fountain's light and is\ndeposited on the pampas early Incan or pre-Incan pampas.\n\n--\nJeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com\nIEEE Student Chapter Blog at\n< http://ieeetamut.org >\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<003EB906-ACA7-480B-9DF9-7586830BD109@liftingfaces.com>", "from": { "name": "Ryan Dunn", "address": "ryan at liftingfaces.com" }, "date": "2010-08-04T17:45:15+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Severian and the corridor of time.", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "The probability of Josh being a JW split persona is going up the more I read.\n\nMaybe JW stands for Jean Wolfe? Yuk yuk yuk.\n\n...ryan" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Aug 4, 2010, at 1:16 PM, brunians at brunians.org wrote:\nWhen was Severian ever desperate?\n\nWhy, Wilson, do you want Severian to be a weaker person than he is?\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "On 8/3/2010 8:24 PM, David Stockhoff wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Maybe he skidded past the exact point where the light reaches Urth,\nbecause he was going so fast." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Like a ship running aground, sure. His desperation of his existence as\nthe destroyer of Urth may have given him some extra heedless speed until\nhe overshoots the early end of the White Fountain's light and is\ndeposited on the pampas early Incan or pre-Incan pampas.\n\n--\nJeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com\nIEEE Student Chapter Blog at\n< http://ieeetamut.org >\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<946593d4ea037e2c2350b126fab1548d.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2010-08-04T18:03:06+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Severian and the corridor of time.", "in_reply_to": "<003EB906-ACA7-480B-9DF9-7586830BD109@liftingfaces.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Perhaps Josh Geller is a pseudonymn of Gene Wolfe, or Samuel R Delawney or\nTim Powers or maybe Ishvara Farber.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "The probability of Josh being a JW split persona is going up the more I\nread.\n\nMaybe JW stands for Jean Wolfe? Yuk yuk yuk.\n\n...ryan\n\n\n\nOn Aug 4, 2010, at 1:16 PM, brunians at brunians.org wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "When was Severian ever desperate?\n\nWhy, Wilson, do you want Severian to be a weaker person than he is?\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "On 8/3/2010 8:24 PM, David Stockhoff wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "Maybe he skidded past the exact point where the light reaches Urth,\nbecause he was going so fast." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Like a ship running aground, sure. His desperation of his existence as\nthe destroyer of Urth may have given him some extra heedless speed\nuntil\nhe overshoots the early end of the White Fountain's light and is\ndeposited on the pampas early Incan or pre-Incan pampas.\n\n--\nJeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com\nIEEE Student Chapter Blog at\n< http://ieeetamut.org >\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<5e85ce4d6d2ef37b4141869d30c985cc.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2010-08-04T18:05:51+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Severian and the corridor of time.", "in_reply_to": "<946593d4ea037e2c2350b126fab1548d.squirrel@brunians.org>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I will say that Josh Geller is in fact an pseudomnymn of one of these\nfolkses.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Perhaps Josh Geller is a pseudonymn of Gene Wolfe, or Samuel R Delawney or\nTim Powers or maybe Ishvara Farber.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "The probability of Josh being a JW split persona is going up the more I\nread.\n\nMaybe JW stands for Jean Wolfe? Yuk yuk yuk.\n\n...ryan\n\n\n\nOn Aug 4, 2010, at 1:16 PM, brunians at brunians.org wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "When was Severian ever desperate?\n\nWhy, Wilson, do you want Severian to be a weaker person than he is?\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "On 8/3/2010 8:24 PM, David Stockhoff wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 5, "text": "Maybe he skidded past the exact point where the light reaches Urth,\nbecause he was going so fast." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "Like a ship running aground, sure. His desperation of his existence as\nthe destroyer of Urth may have given him some extra heedless speed\nuntil\nhe overshoots the early end of the White Fountain's light and is\ndeposited on the pampas early Incan or pre-Incan pampas.\n\n--\nJeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com\nIEEE Student Chapter Blog at\n< http://ieeetamut.org >\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<0E12B25B-433D-435A-929D-276B6154F899@liftingfaces.com>", "from": { "name": "Ryan Dunn", "address": "ryan at liftingfaces.com" }, "date": "2010-08-04T18:31:15+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Severian and the corridor of time.", "in_reply_to": "<5e85ce4d6d2ef37b4141869d30c985cc.squirrel@brunians.org>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "who's that third name? or does that question answer itself?\n\n...ryan" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Aug 4, 2010, at 2:05 PM, brunians at brunians.org wrote:\nI will say that Josh Geller is in fact an pseudomnymn of one of these\nfolkses.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Perhaps Josh Geller is a pseudonymn of Gene Wolfe, or Samuel R Delawney or\nTim Powers or maybe Ishvara Farber.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "The probability of Josh being a JW split persona is going up the more I\nread.\n\nMaybe JW stands for Jean Wolfe? Yuk yuk yuk.\n\n...ryan\n\n\n\nOn Aug 4, 2010, at 1:16 PM, brunians at brunians.org wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "When was Severian ever desperate?\n\nWhy, Wilson, do you want Severian to be a weaker person than he is?\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 5, "text": "On 8/3/2010 8:24 PM, David Stockhoff wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 6, "text": "Maybe he skidded past the exact point where the light reaches Urth,\nbecause he was going so fast." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 5, "text": "Like a ship running aground, sure. His desperation of his existence as\nthe destroyer of Urth may have given him some extra heedless speed\nuntil\nhe overshoots the early end of the White Fountain's light and is\ndeposited on the pampas early Incan or pre-Incan pampas.\n\n--\nJeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com\nIEEE Student Chapter Blog at\n< http://ieeetamut.org >\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Rob Thornton", "address": "oblate777 at gmail.com" }, "date": "2010-08-04T18:38:13+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Severian and the corridor of time.", "in_reply_to": "<0E12B25B-433D-435A-929D-276B6154F899@liftingfaces.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Tim Powers? A fantasy and SF writer who is best known for The Anubis\nGates and whose book On Stranger Tides is being turned into a Pirates\nof Caribbean movie.\n\nNow I have no clue who Ishvara Farber is. Time for Google....\n\nRob" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Ryan Dunn wrote:\nwho's that third name? or does that question answer itself?\n\n...ryan\n\n\nOn Aug 4, 2010, at 2:05 PM, brunians at brunians.org wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "I will say that Josh Geller is in fact an pseudomnymn of one of these\nfolkses.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Perhaps Josh Geller is a pseudonymn of Gene Wolfe, or Samuel R Delawney or\nTim Powers or maybe Ishvara Farber.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "The probability of Josh being a JW split persona is going up the more I\nread.\n\nMaybe JW stands for Jean Wolfe? Yuk yuk yuk.\n\n...ryan\n\n\n\nOn Aug 4, 2010, at 1:16 PM, brunians at brunians.org wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 5, "text": "When was Severian ever desperate?\n\nWhy, Wilson, do you want Severian to be a weaker person than he is?\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 6, "text": "On 8/3/2010 8:24 PM, David Stockhoff wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 7, "text": "Maybe he skidded past the exact point where the light reaches Urth,\nbecause he was going so fast." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 6, "text": "Like a ship running aground, sure. His desperation of his existence as\nthe destroyer of Urth may have given him some extra heedless speed\nuntil\nhe overshoots the early end of the White Fountain's light and is\ndeposited on the pampas early Incan or pre-Incan pampas.\n\n--\nJeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com\nIEEE Student Chapter Blog at\n< http://ieeetamut.org >\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<6889493978779d4fe2582ee8d26a80da.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2010-08-04T19:19:24+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Severian and the corridor of time.", "in_reply_to": "<0E12B25B-433D-435A-929D-276B6154F899@liftingfaces.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "It may.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "who's that third name? or does that question answer itself?\n\n...ryan\n\n\nOn Aug 4, 2010, at 2:05 PM, brunians at brunians.org wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "I will say that Josh Geller is in fact an pseudomnymn of one of these\nfolkses.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "Perhaps Josh Geller is a pseudonymn of Gene Wolfe, or Samuel R Delawney\nor\nTim Powers or maybe Ishvara Farber.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "The probability of Josh being a JW split persona is going up the more\nI\nread.\n\nMaybe JW stands for Jean Wolfe? Yuk yuk yuk.\n\n...ryan\n\n\n\nOn Aug 4, 2010, at 1:16 PM, brunians at brunians.org wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 5, "text": "When was Severian ever desperate?\n\nWhy, Wilson, do you want Severian to be a weaker person than he is?\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 6, "text": "On 8/3/2010 8:24 PM, David Stockhoff wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 7, "text": "Maybe he skidded past the exact point where the light reaches Urth,\nbecause he was going so fast." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 6, "text": "Like a ship running aground, sure. His desperation of his existence\nas\nthe destroyer of Urth may have given him some extra heedless speed\nuntil\nhe overshoots the early end of the White Fountain's light and is\ndeposited on the pampas early Incan or pre-Incan pampas.\n\n--\nJeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com\nIEEE Student Chapter Blog at\n< http://ieeetamut.org >\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<8806cabf91af643a29ef7a8a12252259.squirrel@brunians.org>", "from": { "name": "brunians at brunians.org", "address": "brunians at brunians.org" }, "date": "2010-08-04T19:20:09+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Severian and the corridor of time.", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Also friend to PKD and me.\n\nOne of the best guys I know.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Tim Powers? A fantasy and SF writer who is best known for The Anubis\nGates and whose book On Stranger Tides is being turned into a Pirates\nof Caribbean movie.\n\nNow I have no clue who Ishvara Farber is. Time for Google....\n\nRob\n\nOn Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Ryan Dunn wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "who's that third name? or does that question answer itself?\n\n...ryan\n\n\nOn Aug 4, 2010, at 2:05 PM, brunians at brunians.org wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "I will say that Josh Geller is in fact an pseudomnymn of one of these\nfolkses.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "Perhaps Josh Geller is a pseudonymn of Gene Wolfe, or Samuel R\nDelawney or\nTim Powers or maybe Ishvara Farber.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 5, "text": "The probability of Josh being a JW split persona is going up the more\nI\nread.\n\nMaybe JW stands for Jean Wolfe? Yuk yuk yuk.\n\n...ryan\n\n\n\nOn Aug 4, 2010, at 1:16 PM, brunians at brunians.org wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 6, "text": "When was Severian ever desperate?\n\nWhy, Wilson, do you want Severian to be a weaker person than he is?\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 7, "text": "On 8/3/2010 8:24 PM, David Stockhoff wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 8, "text": "Maybe he skidded past the exact point where the light reaches\nUrth,\nbecause he was going so fast." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 7, "text": "Like a ship running aground, sure. His desperation of his existence\nas\nthe destroyer of Urth may have given him some extra heedless speed\nuntil\nhe overshoots the early end of the White Fountain's light and is\ndeposited on the pampas early Incan or pre-Incan pampas.\n\n--\nJeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com\nIEEE Student Chapter Blog at\n< http://ieeetamut.org >\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes", "address": "danldo at gmail.com" }, "date": "2010-08-04T19:23:54+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Severian and the corridor of time.", "in_reply_to": "<8806cabf91af643a29ef7a8a12252259.squirrel@brunians.org>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Yes, Tim is a real sweetheart." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 12:20 PM, wrote:\nAlso friend to PKD and me.\n\nOne of the best guys I know.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Tim Powers? A fantasy and SF writer who is best known for The Anubis\nGates and whose book On Stranger Tides is being turned into a Pirates\nof Caribbean movie.\n\nNow I have no clue who Ishvara Farber is. Time for Google....\n\nRob\n\nOn Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Ryan Dunn wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "who's that third name? or does that question answer itself?\n\n...ryan\n\n\nOn Aug 4, 2010, at 2:05 PM, brunians at brunians.org wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "I will say that Josh Geller is in fact an pseudomnymn of one of these\nfolkses.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 5, "text": "Perhaps Josh Geller is a pseudonymn of Gene Wolfe, or Samuel R\nDelawney or\nTim Powers or maybe Ishvara Farber.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 6, "text": "The probability of Josh being a JW split persona is going up the more\nI\nread.\n\nMaybe JW stands for Jean Wolfe? Yuk yuk yuk.\n\n...ryan\n\n\n\nOn Aug 4, 2010, at 1:16 PM, brunians at brunians.org wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 7, "text": "When was Severian ever desperate?\n\nWhy, Wilson, do you want Severian to be a weaker person than he is?\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 8, "text": "On 8/3/2010 8:24 PM, David Stockhoff wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 9, "text": "Maybe he skidded past the exact point where the light reaches\nUrth,\nbecause he was going so fast." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 8, "text": "Like a ship running aground, sure. His desperation of his existence\nas\nthe destroyer of Urth may have given him some extra heedless speed\nuntil\nhe overshoots the early end of the White Fountain's light and is\ndeposited on the pampas early Incan or pre-Incan pampas.\n\n--\nJeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com\nIEEE Student Chapter Blog at\n< http://ieeetamut.org >\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<3AF5BF67-89D1-44D9-B1BD-54A7413D0BF1@liftingfaces.com>", "from": { "name": "Ryan Dunn", "address": "ryan at liftingfaces.com" }, "date": "2010-08-04T19:30:47+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Severian and the corridor of time.", "in_reply_to": "<8806cabf91af643a29ef7a8a12252259.squirrel@brunians.org>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "were you at readercon this year?\n\n...ryan" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Aug 4, 2010, at 3:20 PM, brunians at brunians.org wrote:\nAlso friend to PKD and me.\n\nOne of the best guys I know.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Tim Powers? A fantasy and SF writer who is best known for The Anubis\nGates and whose book On Stranger Tides is being turned into a Pirates\nof Caribbean movie.\n\nNow I have no clue who Ishvara Farber is. Time for Google....\n\nRob\n\nOn Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Ryan Dunn wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 3, "text": "who's that third name? or does that question answer itself?\n\n...ryan\n\n\nOn Aug 4, 2010, at 2:05 PM, brunians at brunians.org wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 4, "text": "I will say that Josh Geller is in fact an pseudomnymn of one of these\nfolkses.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 5, "text": "Perhaps Josh Geller is a pseudonymn of Gene Wolfe, or Samuel R\nDelawney or\nTim Powers or maybe Ishvara Farber.\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 6, "text": "The probability of Josh being a JW split persona is going up the more\nI\nread.\n\nMaybe JW stands for Jean Wolfe? Yuk yuk yuk.\n\n...ryan\n\n\n\nOn Aug 4, 2010, at 1:16 PM, brunians at brunians.org wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 7, "text": "When was Severian ever desperate?\n\nWhy, Wilson, do you want Severian to be a weaker person than he is?\n\n." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 8, "text": "On 8/3/2010 8:24 PM, David Stockhoff wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 9, "text": "Maybe he skidded past the exact point where the light reaches\nUrth,\nbecause he was going so fast." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 8, "text": "Like a ship running aground, sure. His desperation of his existence\nas\nthe destroyer of Urth may have given him some extra heedless speed\nuntil\nhe overshoots the early end of the White Fountain's light and is\ndeposited on the pampas early Incan or pre-Incan pampas.\n\n--\nJeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com\nIEEE Student Chapter Blog at\n< http://ieeetamut.org >\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "<4C59E56A.2000603@io.com>", "from": { "name": "Adam Thornton", "address": "adam at io.com" }, "date": "2010-08-04T22:10:50+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Severian and the corridor of time.", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On 08/04/2010 01:38 PM, Rob Thornton wrote:\nTim Powers? A fantasy and SF writer who is best known for The Anubis\nGates and whose book On Stranger Tides is being turned into a Pirates\nof Caribbean movie.\n\nNow I have no clue who Ishvara Farber is. Time for Google....\n " }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Audrey Farber? Melanie Hayworth? How about...Betty Jo Bialowski?\n\n....oh, you mean Nancy.\n\nI'll just sit here in the waiting room." } ] } ] }