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This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 5723, "subject": "New Wolfe stories", "messages": 9, "voices": 7, "first": "2010-08-19T09:20:30+00:00", "last": "2010-08-31T04:30:28+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "<447686.52317.qm@web32103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "Nicholas Gevers", "address": "vermoulian at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2010-08-19T09:20:30+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Wolfe stories", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "There's been some mention of new Wolfe stories, so I thought I'd fill the \ndetails out a bit.\n\nFour new GW tales appear in recent anthologies:\n\n\"Leif in the Wind\", in Gaiman & Sarrantonio (eds.), STORIES (William Morrow, \nhardcover), pp. 220-231.\n\n\"King Rat\", in Hull (ed.), GATEWAYS (Tor, hardcover), pp. 245-257. Note on Fred \nPohl follows, pp. 257-259.\n\n\"Innocent\", in Schweitzer (ed.), FULL MOON CITY (Simon & Schuster/Gallery, trade \npaperback), pp. 26-36.\n\n\"Bloodsport\", in Strahan & Anders (eds.), SWORDS AND DARK MAGIC (Subterranean \nPress, hardcover), pp. 81-93.\n\nI have a Wolfe story, \"Why I Was Hanged\", in inventory for a 2011 Harper Collins \nanthology, GHOSTS BY GASLIGHT.\n\n--Nick Gevers.\n\n\n " } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Milton Jackson", "address": "miltonwjackson at gmail.com" }, "date": "2010-08-19T21:40:12+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Wolfe stories", "in_reply_to": "<447686.52317.qm@web32103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Not sure if you guys have discussed this already, but Gene Wolfe has a new\nbook coming out January 18. It's called Home Fires, but I couldn't get\nenough information from Amazon to know if it's a novel or an anthology. I'm\nguessing novel, but as I say, I haven't gleaned enough information to be\nsure." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 5:20 AM, Nicholas Gevers wrote:\nThere's been some mention of new Wolfe stories, so I thought I'd fill the\ndetails out a bit.\n\nFour new GW tales appear in recent anthologies:\n\n\"Leif in the Wind\", in Gaiman & Sarrantonio (eds.), STORIES (William\nMorrow,\nhardcover), pp. 220-231.\n\n\"King Rat\", in Hull (ed.), GATEWAYS (Tor, hardcover), pp. 245-257. Note on\nFred\nPohl follows, pp. 257-259.\n\n\"Innocent\", in Schweitzer (ed.), FULL MOON CITY (Simon & Schuster/Gallery,\ntrade\npaperback), pp. 26-36.\n\n\"Bloodsport\", in Strahan & Anders (eds.), SWORDS AND DARK MAGIC\n(Subterranean\nPress, hardcover), pp. 81-93.\n\nI have a Wolfe story, \"Why I Was Hanged\", in inventory for a 2011 Harper\nCollins\nanthology, GHOSTS BY GASLIGHT.\n\n--Nick Gevers.\n\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Matthew Keeley", "address": "matthew.keeley.1 at gmail.com" }, "date": "2010-08-19T21:51:57+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Wolfe stories", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I didn't realize the Amazon listing had shown up already, nor that the book\ncame out so soon. Home Fires is a novel. He talked about it at Readercon\n2009 — spoke about some characters, the setting, etc.\n\nI wrote a post to Urth on Wolfe at Readercon in July of last year; the post\nis presumably in the Urth Archives for July 2009.\n\nHere's the relevant section of my report on Wolfe's comments:\n\n(Minor spoilers, I suppose)\n\nWhen I asked what Wolfe was working on, he talked a little about Home Fires,\nthe\nsecond draft of which he finished in February. Apparently it involves\nan energy-poor future Earth, an interstellar war, and complications in\nlove arriving as a result of time dilation.\n\n-Matt" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Gwern Branwen", "address": "gwern0 at gmail.com" }, "date": "2010-08-20T04:06:55+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Wolfe stories", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Matthew Keeley\n wrote:\nI didn't realize the Amazon listing had shown up already, nor that the book\ncame out so soon. Home Fires is a novel. He talked about it at Readercon\n2009 — spoke about some characters, the setting, etc.\nI wrote a post to Urth on Wolfe at Readercon in July of last year; the post\nis presumably in the Urth Archives for July 2009.\nHere's the relevant section of my report on Wolfe's comments:\n(Minor spoilers, I suppose)\nWhen I asked what Wolfe was working on, he talked a little about Home Fires,\nthe\nsecond draft of which he finished in February. Apparently it involves\nan energy-poor future Earth, an interstellar war, and complications in\nlove arriving as a result of time dilation.\n\n-Matt" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Hm. A future earth, an interstellar war, time travel, and love. Maybe\nwe're getting another entry in the AEG-verse, one which isn't so\n'heavily expurgated of the overarching story' (as one MLer put it,\nIIRC)." }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "gwern" } ] }, { "message_id": "<4C6E96FE.80609@gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "James Wynn", "address": "crushtv at gmail.com" }, "date": "2010-08-20T14:53:50+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Wolfe stories", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Gwern Branwen - Hm. A future earth, an interstellar war, time travel, and love. Maybe\nwe're getting another entry in the AEG-verse, one which isn't so\n'heavily expurgated of the overarching story' (as one MLer put it,\nIIRC)." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Funny. Unless Wolfe has changed his mind, there is a character named \nREES [phonetically represented because I don't know how it's spelled.] I \nasked him whether the similarity in this name and that of Bill Ries \nmeant Home Fires was a continuation of AEG and The Tree Is My Hat. He \nreplied, \"I don't think the names are similar\".\n\nI responded \"Really???\". Then he immediately went into a story [cutting \nme off IMO] about how how he has messed up with naming in the past \nbecause the main character in The Other Dead Man was named Will Ries. In \nshort, he didn't explicitly answer my question.\n\nu+16b9" } ] }, { "message_id": "<87a3a7e89edd6461bc6a5612d8edc9fc@imap.io.com>", "from": { "name": "adam at io.com", "address": "adam at io.com" }, "date": "2010-08-20T19:48:00+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Wolfe stories", "in_reply_to": "<4C6E96FE.80609@gmail.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 09:53:50 -0500, James Wynn wrote:\nI responded \"Really???\". Then he immediately went into a story [cutting \nme off IMO] about how how he has messed up with naming in the past \nbecause the main character in The Other Dead Man was named Will Ries. In" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "short, he didn't explicitly answer my question." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I have a Theory.\n\nWolfe is an Aggie.\n\nTexas A&M and Rice University have no love lost between them.\n\nThe founder of Rice was one William Marsh Rice.\n\nSo maybe Wolfe just likes naming villains after him and associating them\nsomehow with water, for the Marsh effect.\n\nAdam" } ] }, { "message_id": "<519210.77701.qm@web37904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "Nicholas Jost", "address": "nickjost at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2010-08-20T21:32:50+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Wolfe stories", "in_reply_to": "<87a3a7e89edd6461bc6a5612d8edc9fc@imap.io.com>", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Subject: Re: (urth) New Wolfe stories\nI responded \"Really???\". Then he immediately went into a story [cutting \nme off IMO] about how how he has messed up with naming in the past \nbecause the main character in The Other Dead Man was named Will Ries. In\n\nshort, he didn't explicitly answer my question." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I have a Theory.\n\nWolfe is an Aggie.\n\nTexas A&M and Rice University have no love lost between them.\n\nThe founder of Rice was one William Marsh Rice.\n\nSo maybe Wolfe just likes naming villains after him and associating them\nsomehow with water, for the Marsh effect." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Isn't Reese a \"good-guy\" by the end of AEG?\n\n\n\n " } ] }, { "message_id": "<4C6EF5B2.6060805@gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "James Wynn", "address": "crushtv at gmail.com" }, "date": "2010-08-20T21:37:54+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Wolfe stories", "in_reply_to": "<519210.77701.qm@web37904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Isn't Reese a \"good-guy\" by the end of AEG?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Wolfe pronounced it \"rice\" with the \"i\" held as in \"rise\".\n\nFurther, Wolfe described Ries as the perfect villain: \"a man who falls \njust short of being a hero\".\n\nu+16b9" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Gwern Branwen", "address": "gwern0 at gmail.com" }, "date": "2010-08-31T04:30:28+00:00", "subject": "(urth) New Wolfe stories", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Matthew Keeley\n wrote:\nI didn't realize the Amazon listing had shown up already, nor that the book\ncame out so soon. Home Fires is a novel. He talked about it at Readercon\n2009 — spoke about some characters, the setting, etc.\nI wrote a post to Urth on Wolfe at Readercon in July of last year; the post\nis presumably in the Urth Archives for July 2009.\nHere's the relevant section of my report on Wolfe's comments:\n(Minor spoilers, I suppose)\nWhen I asked what Wolfe was working on, he talked a little about Home Fires,\nthe\nsecond draft of which he finished in February. Apparently it involves\nan energy-poor future Earth, an interstellar war, and complications in\nlove arriving as a result of time dilation.\n\n-Matt" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Here's someone who has written a review:\nhttp://mordicai.livejournal.com/1817587.html\n\n(Must have an advance copy.)\n\n \"Home Fires is the story of a couple torn apart by war. She ships\noff to serve while he stays home to build a life for when she returns.\nOf course, the war is set on a far off world, & due to the vagaries of\nspace-time dilatation at high speeds, she returns just a few months\nolder while he has aged twenty years. Their May-December romance is of\ncourse complicated. The world the story is set in is an odd future--\nlike the future of Mad Men perhaps, a future of a past that skips our\ncurrent history. Or a history that, in cycles, returns to old\npatterns. The man-- Skip, a lawyer-- takes his partner (\"contracto,\"\nthe civil & religious ceremonies of marriage having been split) on a\ncruise to win his love-- Mastergunner Chelle-- back, along with her\nmother-- more or less-- & they are swept up in the machinations of one\nof Robert Louis Stevenson's Suicide Clubs, or the stratagems of spies,\nor both, or neither. Shockingly, all is revealed by the end-- that is\nthe thing that gets me the most. Gene Wolfe has a tendency to leave\nyou guessing, to never spell out just what has been going on-- yet\nhere, he does. The inquisitive Skip's barrister background makes him\nboth good at ferreting out the truth & laying it out. So caught up in\nthe plot-- & the plotting-- was I that I totally didn't see the final\n\"twist\" (by which I emphatically don't mean an M. Night Shyamalan\nanagnorisis) coming. So obvious that I over-looked it entirely. I\nthink Home Fires, like many of Mister Wolfe's recent novels, is the\nsort of narrative that he would have once written as a short story &\nthen put aside. In fleshing them out into full novels he provides\nsomething eminently readable & very intimate. They become character\nstudies-- because Gene Wolfe has written enough tight novellas &\nshorter works, he has room to lay out the story while paying attention\nto the tucked away parcels of the characters.\"" }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "gwern" } ] } ] }