{ "export": { "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/5731", "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 5731, "subject": "Dream Fava's hair", "messages": 3, "voices": 2, "first": "2010-08-29T15:59:47+00:00", "last": "2010-08-30T15:34:13+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Dave Tallman", "address": "davetallman at msn.com" }, "date": "2010-08-29T15:59:47+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Dream Fava's hair", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Here are some quotes about the hair-color of the dream Fava. Descriptions of\nher hair color when she's not a dream projection are about her wig and don't\ncount.\n\nIGJ p. 194:\n\"The chamber that confined us was so dimly lit that I could scarcely make\nout its walls; but as well as I could judge, only Fava had changed at all.\nAnd even Fava had changed only subtly, for she had always seemed an\napple-cheeked child just short of puberty, with\nlong, light brown hair and a winning smile.\"\n\n*Hair color:* light brown. *Special circumstances:* very dim lighting would\nmake colors hard to see.\n\n\nRttW p. 85:\nHe turned and saw Spider...in conversation with small girls in starched\nfrocks...\n\nHe asked politely how he could find Hyacinth.\n\n\"Down there,\" the blond girl pointed. \"She's down there like Spider and me.\"\n\nThe dark girl nodded. \"Down there where you're going, and she can't ever\ncome back.\nTake a cake for the dog.\"\n\n*Hair color:* blond *Special circumstances: *dream on the Whorl, before he\nmet Mora and Fava in real life.\nIs this a time-travel dream projection? I think so. The conversation\nindicates Fava and Hyacinth are both dead.\n\nRttW pp. 23-26\n\"A little girl named Mora, and another one...\"\n...\n\"There was a little girl hiding under there already. At first I thought it\nwas the one with yellow hair, but it wasn't.\"\n...\n\"Then I thought it was the other one, Mora. Only it wasn't her either.\"\n\n*Hair color:* yellow. *Special circumstances:* this is Hide's dream. Hide is\nnot as smart or observant as Silk.\n\n\nRttW pp. 94-95.\nThe deadcoach dream. Mora and Fava are there, but no hair colors are\ndescribed.\n\nGiven the evidence, I would have to say that the dream Fava was blond,\nyellow-haired. The only case where she is described differently is in the\ncell on Green, but that was in bad light. If so, we can only make her\nHyacinth by dyeing her hair." } ] }, { "message_id": "<4C7BA6B7.40605@gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "James Wynn", "address": "crushtv at gmail.com" }, "date": "2010-08-30T12:40:23+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Dream Fava's hair", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": " Dave,\n\nGood on you for fingering these. I'll respond about this tonight.\n\nu+16b9" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Dave Tallman -- Here are some quotes about the hair-color of the dream \nFava. Descriptions of her hair color when she's not a dream projection \nare about her wig and don't count.\n\nIGJ p. 194:\n\"The chamber that confined us was so dimly lit that I could scarcely \nmake out its walls; but as well as I could judge, only Fava had \nchanged at all. And even Fava had changed only subtly, for she had \nalways seemed an apple-cheeked child just short of puberty, with\nlong, light brown hair and a winning smile.\"\n\n*Hair color:* light brown. *Special circumstances:* very dim lighting \nwould make colors hard to see.\n\n\nRttW p. 85:\nHe turned and saw Spider...in conversation with small girls in \nstarched frocks...\n\nHe asked politely how he could find Hyacinth.\n\n\"Down there,\" the blond girl pointed. \"She's down there like Spider \nand me.\"\n\nThe dark girl nodded. \"Down there where you're going, and she can't \never come back.\nTake a cake for the dog.\"\n\n*Hair color:* blond *Special circumstances: *dream on the Whorl, \nbefore he met Mora and Fava in real life.\nIs this a time-travel dream projection? I think so. The conversation \nindicates Fava and Hyacinth are both dead.\n\nRttW pp. 23-26\n\"A little girl named Mora, and another one...\"\n...\n\"There was a little girl hiding under there already. At first I \nthought it was the one with yellow hair, but it wasn't.\"\n...\n\"Then I thought it was the other one, Mora. Only it wasn't her either.\"\n\n*Hair color:* yellow. *Special circumstances:* this is Hide's dream. \nHide is not as smart or observant as Silk.\n\n\nRttW pp. 94-95.\nThe deadcoach dream. Mora and Fava are there, but no hair colors are \ndescribed.\n\nGiven the evidence, I would have to say that the dream Fava was blond, \nyellow-haired. The only case where she is described differently is in \nthe cell on Green, but that was in bad light. If so, we can only make \nher Hyacinth by dyeing her hair.\n\n\n_______________________________________________" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Dave Tallman", "address": "davetallman at msn.com" }, "date": "2010-08-30T15:34:13+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Dream Fava's hair", "in_reply_to": "<4C7BA6B7.40605@gmail.com>", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "James Wynn wrote:\nGood on you for fingering these. I'll respond about this tonight." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "If we establish yellow hair for Fava's soul-self, that opens the possibility\nof a different Fava/Silk connection. Silk has yellow hair, and that color\nseems to be fairly rare in Viron. Could Fava's soul have come from Silk?\nShe's nicer than many inhuma (compare her to Jahlee). Like Silk, she did\nwell at school both in both academic subjects and athletics. The Rajan was\ndrawn to save her life in her early childhood on Green. (Wolfean time-loops\nrequire starters -- if she never survived childhood the Rajan could never\nhave heard her story and inserted himself into it).\n\nAnother possible soul source is Patera Pike, if the clone theory is correct.\nPike knew something about the inhumi and how to ward them off, knowledge he\npassed on to Silk." } ] } ] }