# Hyacinth's weight *The Urth list — 4 messages, 3 voices, 03 Sep 2010* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Dave Tallman *03 Sep 2010, 05:28* I've been looking around in CofLS and EftLS and I have yet to find any reference to Hyacinth's weight being unusually low. I seem to have exhausted all the times Silk and Hy were together. Does anyone know where to find these? --- ### James Wynn *13 Sep 2010, 16:03 · in reply to Dave Tallman* > On 9/3/2010 12:28 AM, Dave Tallman wrote: > I've been looking around in CofLS and EftLS and I have yet to find any > reference to Hyacinth's weight being unusually low. I seem to have > exhausted all the times Silk and Hy were together. Does anyone know > where to find these? I'm back and released from my imprisonment. I also had trouble relocating these references by normal hunt and peck methods. I've started another pass through the books. But I'm quite certain they were referenced. Back in the day when I was arguing that Hy might be a chem, I conceded that weight was a hurtful blow because it had been referenced about her at least twice. u+16b9 --- ### Roy C. Lackey *13 Sep 2010, 19:39 · in reply to James Wynn* > James Wynn quoted and wrote: > On 9/3/2010 12:28 AM, Dave Tallman wrote: >> I've been looking around in CofLS and EftLS and I have yet to find any >> reference to Hyacinth's weight being unusually low. I seem to have >> exhausted all the times Silk and Hy were together. Does anyone know >> where to find these? > I'm back and released from my imprisonment. I also had trouble > relocating these references by normal hunt and peck methods. I've > started another pass through the books. But I'm quite certain they were > referenced. Back in the day when I was arguing that Hy might be a chem, > I conceded that weight was a hurtful blow because it had been referenced > about her at least twice. I don't presume to know what you were thinking then or now, but since it was I who brought up the weight issue back then, I do know what I was thinking and what I said. It had nothing to do with Hy's weight being unusually low; it was that chems, particularly the males (you were saying that Hy was a male chem), weigh much more than humans. Even a fem chem weighs more than human women. This is indicated a couple times. One is in the wake of Rose's funeral. Marble had killed Musk and overheated in the fire and collapsed. Later, Silk helped her to stand up but had to heave "with all his strength" to do it. He helped her to the arbor near the manse and the Rose in her started talking about giving birth to Blood. At one point he said "I would have carried you, Maytera, if I could; but I knew you'd be too heavy for me to lift." (CALDE, chap. 4, 131) Another place is when Mint (shortly after getting out of the tunnels) and Marble were reunited near the Grand Manteion. "Maytera Mint was laughing and hugging her and trying to lift her off the ground, which was so ridiculous that Maytera Marble exclaimed, 'Stop, sib, before you hurt yourself!'" (EXODUS, chap. 11, 215) -Roy --- ### James Wynn *13 Sep 2010, 19:45 · in reply to Roy C. Lackey* Okay. It's beside the point here. But as I say, it was a good point at the time. u+16b9 > On 9/13/2010 2:39 PM, Roy C. Lackey wrote: > James Wynn quoted and wrote: >> On 9/3/2010 12:28 AM, Dave Tallman wrote: >>> I've been looking around in CofLS and EftLS and I have yet to find any >>> reference to Hyacinth's weight being unusually low. I seem to have >>> exhausted all the times Silk and Hy were together. Does anyone know >>> where to find these? >> I'm back and released from my imprisonment. I also had trouble >> relocating these references by normal hunt and peck methods. I've >> started another pass through the books. But I'm quite certain they were >> referenced. Back in the day when I was arguing that Hy might be a chem, >> I conceded that weight was a hurtful blow because it had been referenced >> about her at least twice. > I don't presume to know what you were thinking then or now, but since it was > I who brought up the weight issue back then, I do know what I was thinking > and what I said. It had nothing to do with Hy's weight being unusually low; > it was that chems, particularly the males (you were saying that Hy was a > male chem), weigh much more than humans. Even a fem chem weighs more than > human women. > > This is indicated a couple times. One is in the wake of Rose's funeral. > Marble had killed Musk and overheated in the fire and collapsed. Later, Silk > helped her to stand up but had to heave "with all his strength" to do it. > He helped her to the arbor near the manse and the Rose in her started > talking about giving birth to Blood. At one point he said "I would have > carried you, Maytera, if I could; but I knew you'd be too heavy for me to > lift." (CALDE, chap. 4, 131) > > Another place is when Mint (shortly after getting out of the tunnels) and > Marble were reunited near the Grand Manteion. "Maytera Mint was laughing and > hugging her and trying to lift her off the ground, which was so ridiculous > that Maytera Marble exclaimed, 'Stop, sib, before you hurt yourself!'" > (EXODUS, chap. 11, 215) > > -Roy > > _______________________________________________ ---