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This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 5765, "subject": "Where Judas lost his boots", "messages": 7, "voices": 4, "first": "2010-10-14T16:41:52+00:00", "last": "2010-10-15T14:35:43+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "<4CB732D0.7020105@gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "António Pedro Marques", "address": "entonio at gmail.com" }, "date": "2010-10-14T16:41:52+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Where Judas lost his boots", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Incanto (I think) calls Jahlee 'Judastree' in Sinew's village." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Lee Berman", "address": "severiansola at hotmail.com" }, "date": "2010-10-14T18:19:19+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Where Judas lost his boots", "in_reply_to": "<4CB732D0.7020105@gmail.com>", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Antonio P. Marques- Incanto (I think) calls Jahlee 'Judastree' in Sinew's village." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": " \nHm..I admit you've lost me. Cercis siliquastrum is a small tree found in the Middle\nEast and S. Europe. I assume it got its name from Mr. Iscariot's place of suicide.\n \nPossible to get help in explaining how it relates to Jahlee or boots? Related to Horn \ncalling \"#%&#@#@\" as Seawrack?\n \n \nNow me, after reading BotNS would call Jahlee as \"Jahi\" or maybe Lilith. \t\t \t \t\t " } ] }, { "message_id": "<245762.47750.qm@web114711.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>", "from": { "name": "Jerry Friedman", "address": "jerry_friedman at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2010-10-14T21:33:23+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Where Judas lost his boots", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "From: Lee Berman severiansola at hotmail.com\nAntonio P. Marques- Incanto (I think) calls Jahlee 'Judastree' in Sinew's \nvillage." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Hm..I admit you've lost me. Cercis siliquastrum is a small tree found in the \nMiddle\nEast and S. Europe. I assume it got its name from Mr. Iscariot's place of \nsuicide." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Legend has it that the tree had white flowers, but blushed when J. I. hanged \nhimself on it (saying, according to a reliable source, \"When he's cold and dead, \nwill he let me be? Does he love me too? Does he care for me?\"), which is why \nit has pink flowers now." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Possible to get help in explaining how it relates to Jahlee or boots? Related \nto Horn \n\ncalling \"#%&#@#@\" as Seawrack?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I think it relates to how Incanto feels about Jahlee's trustworthiness, anyway.\n\nJerry Friedman\n\n\n " } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "António Marques", "address": "entonio at gmail.com" }, "date": "2010-10-15T01:54:43+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Where Judas lost his boots", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "On 14 October 2010 19:19, Lee Berman wrote:\nAntonio P. Marques- Incanto (I think) calls Jahlee 'Judastree' in Sinew's village." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "'while in', I meant." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Hm..I admit you've lost me. Cercis siliquastrum is a small tree found in the Middle\nEast and S. Europe. I assume it got its name from Mr. Iscariot's place of suicide." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Folk lore says it was a fig tree. The english \"Judas tree\" may be a\nmisconstruction of the latin/romance for \"Judea's tree\"." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Possible to get help in explaining how it relates to Jahlee or boots?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Oh, the boots thing is just one portuguese expression for 'a place far\naway nobody wants to have to go to from here'." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Related to Horn calling \"#%&#@#@\" as Seawrack?\n\nNow me, after reading BotNS would call Jahlee as \"Jahi\" or maybe Lilith." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I don't get Incanto's mistrust of Jahlee at that specific point, but\nthe relevant part is the use of the name 'Judas' in the Whorl's\nuniverse. Conjoined 'Judastree' may be evidence that he knew not what\nthe components meant, but the idea of treason seems to be is there.\nEither way, if it wasn't there by Horn's time, it was there at some\nearlier point." } ] }, { "message_id": "<4CB8645E.8030403@gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "James Wynn", "address": "crushtv at gmail.com" }, "date": "2010-10-15T14:25:34+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Where Judas lost his boots", "in_reply_to": "<4CB732D0.7020105@gmail.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Ant?nio Pedro Marques-\nIncanto (I think) calls Jahlee 'Judastree' in Sinew's village." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I think he chose it as a treasonous cognate to \"Jahlee\" which means \n\"false\".\n\nBut Jahlee says people wouldn't like her real name there. Are we to \nassume they speak Sanskrit or Hindi?" } ] }, { "message_id": "<4CB86673.9000900@gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "António Pedro Marques", "address": "entonio at gmail.com" }, "date": "2010-10-15T14:34:27+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Where Judas lost his boots", "in_reply_to": "<4CB8645E.8030403@gmail.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "James Wynn wrote (15-10-2010 15:25):" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Ant?nio Pedro Marques-\nIncanto (I think) calls Jahlee 'Judastree' in Sinew's village.\n\nI think he chose it as a treasonous cognate to \"Jahlee\" which means\n\"false\".\n\nBut Jahlee says people wouldn't like her real name there. Are we to\nassume they speak Sanskrit or Hindi?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Possibly arabic, given the number of trivigauntis." } ] }, { "message_id": "<4CB866BF.2070102@gmail.com>", "from": { "name": "António Pedro Marques", "address": "entonio at gmail.com" }, "date": "2010-10-15T14:35:43+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Where Judas lost his boots", "in_reply_to": "<4CB8645E.8030403@gmail.com>", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "James Wynn wrote (15-10-2010 15:25):" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Ant?nio Pedro Marques-\nIncanto (I think) calls Jahlee 'Judastree' in Sinew's village." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I think he chose it as a treasonous cognate to \"Jahlee\" which means\n\"false\".\n\nBut Jahlee says people wouldn't like her real name there. Are we to\nassume they speak Sanskrit or Hindi?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Which raises the question: do the Vironese speak spanish? I mean, they \ndon't, but their 'high speech' which they seldom use is probably spanish." } ] } ] }