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  "thread": {
    "id": 577,
    "subject": "Digest urth.v010.n010",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "1998-05-09T00:00:36+00:00",
    "last": "1998-05-09T00:00:36+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0010-0114@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Alice Turner",
        "address": "al at interport.net"
      },
      "date": "1998-05-09T00:00:36+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Re: Digest urth.v010.n010",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
      "blocks": [
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          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "J.Shultz wrote:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "Speaking of this, anyone have any suggestions for further reading."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Hoom.  Well, there are a few SF writers out there with literary\naspirations and executions as high as Wolfe, or nearly so:  Dan\nSimmons comes to mind, as does Samuel R. Delany.  Ursula K. Le Guin\n-- though she seems less likely to appeal to a Wolfe fan.  Tim\nPowers is not quite as good, but packs a lot of layers of meaning\ninto his work anyway.\n\nA few individual books I've read lately that I can recommend:  Matt\nRuff's \"Sewer, Gas, and Electric,\" which is almost impossible to\ndescribe.  A computerized ghost of Ayn Rand is a major character;\nso is a giant flying shark.  If that doesn't grab you, forget it,\nthe book's not for you.  If it does -- the book is a major hoot."
        },
        {
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          "text": "Funny this should come up today, as I was just handed a package of sf\nrecomendations, partyly done by a group of people, partly by Robert J.\nSawyer for a Toronto newspaper and partly printed out from\nwww.sfsite.com/listswhoto01 to whoto07.htm Funnily enough, Gene Wolfe gets\n*no* recommendation from *any* of them (to exonerate them to a degree, the\nfirst thing is called \"Entry Level Science Fiction), though in another\nappendage printed from a book called -Science Fiction Writers Can't Write\nfor Sour Apples- he is one of a list suggested for the classroom. The whoto\nis one of those \"if ya like this guy then ya'll like that one\" things.\nPatrick O'Leary's -Door #3- (hey, Patty, you still out there?) makes it\nthree times: he is akin to O.S. Card, Jonathan Carroll and Charles De Lint,\napparently. Er-em--bedfellows?\n\nAnyway, I'm going to edit this down according to mine own tastes and throw\nout some of what they call \"Higher Quality Writing, Ambitious Stylistically\nor Thematically\" (My, Mabel, look at them sour apples). Delaney, Dick,\nGibson, Haldeman, Russell Hoban's -Riddley Walker- (I should think any Wolfe\nfan would love this, actually) LeGuin, Paul Preuss (I've never read him, any\ncomments?), Lucius Shepard's -Life During Wartime-, Silverberg's -Dying\nInside-, a couple of James Morrow books and a couple of Connie Willis's.\n\nOh, now I feel like a creep. I edited out -Timescape- by Benford; -Parable\nof the Sower- by O. Butler; -The Gate to Women's Country- by Sheri Tepper (I\nmyself have written appreciatively about Tepper, but this is a clunky book).\nThis was for style, not for theme."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Say:  what ever happened to the idea of \"Wolfe\" and \"Lupine\"\nlists..."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "I, for one, think Ranjit made the right decision, to let it lie. This list\nserves very well for a general freeforall, the other will pick up when the\nfirst Short Sun book appears (Jan. '99 from what I hear).\n\n-alga"
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