# dog ape *The Urth list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 07 Dec 2010* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Andrew Mason *07 Dec 2010, 22:24* > Lee Berman wrote: >> Andrew Mason: It isn't just that it can make human vocalisations; it clearly means what it says >> (as does Oreb). Both seem to have an intelligence which is sub-human but very real. > I don't remember the cynocephalus making any noise. It just seems to look in on Severian then > leave. There are revelations about Oreb at the end of RttWhorl which do involve the limits on > its intelligence, I think Sorry, I was too condensed; no, the cynocephalus doesn't speak. Jane said a dog-headed ape was more surprising than an ape that can speak (the catachrest), and that's what I was commenting on. ---