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I was most\nconfused by the inclusion of Gurloes' iron phallus. Severian thinks it is a symbol but then realizes\nit is not. It is just a plain old tool (argh! sorry).\n \nGiven my current exploration of the role of Dionysus and Great God Pan in the Sun series I was less \ninterested in the PROPHET's crudely carved staff and more interested in the goatskin he was wearing (heh).\nAnother Inire-Faunus-Inuus reference? Awfully pagan at any rate, which might be a bit odd from a straight \nJudeo-Christian interpretation for a prophet in a play called Eschatology and Genesis\n.\n \nStill, at least two possible Inire incarnations do carry a staff, one topped with a monkey-head another\nwith a man-head. \t\t \t \t\t " } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Lee Berman", "address": "severiansola at hotmail.com" }, "date": "2010-12-16T12:44:30+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Seeing the signs.....", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Jeff Wilson: I'm not sure it's consistent to include Agia's hex sign scribbled in the dust and\nnot the beats or masks painted on the towers, or the theatrical masks appearing in various places." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Ryan does say: \"If you have more to add, by all means share.\" I'd be interested in more detail or\ntext quotes for your contributions, Jeff.\n\nThe jurupari hex sign is wreathed in letters so I think it needs inclusion on the list. I was most\nconfused by the inclusion of Gurloes' iron phallus. Severian thinks it is a symbol but then realizes\nit is not. It is just a plain old tool (argh! sorry).\n\nGiven my current exploration of the role of Dionysus and Great God Pan in the Sun series I was less\ninterested in the PROPHET's crudely carved staff and more interested in the goatskin he was wearing (heh).\nAnother Inire-Faunus-Inuus reference? Awfully pagan at any rate, which might be a bit odd from a straight\nJudeo-Christian interpretation for a prophet in a play called Eschatology and Genesis\n.\n\nStill, at least two possible Inire incarnations do carry a staff, one topped with a monkey-head another\nwith a man-head. \t\t \t \t\t " } ] }, { "message_id": "<4D0A7B28.6050105@io.com>", "from": { "name": "Jeff Wilson", "address": "jwilson at io.com" }, "date": "2010-12-16T20:48:40+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Seeing the signs.....", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "header", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On 12/16/2010 6:44 AM, Lee Berman wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Jeff Wilson: I'm not sure it's consistent to include Agia's hex sign scribbled in the dust and\nnot the beats or masks painted on the towers, or the theatrical masks appearing in various places." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Ryan does say: \"If you have more to add, by all means share.\" I'd be interested in more detail or\ntext quotes for your contributions, Jeff.\n\nThe jurupari hex sign is wreathed in letters so I think it needs inclusion on the list. I was most\nconfused by the inclusion of Gurloes' iron phallus. Severian thinks it is a symbol but then realizes\nit is not. It is just a plain old tool (argh! sorry).\n\nGiven my current exploration of the role of Dionysus and Great God Pan in the Sun series I was less\ninterested in the PROPHET's crudely carved staff and more interested in the goatskin he was wearing (heh).\nAnother Inire-Faunus-Inuus reference? Awfully pagan at any rate, which might be a bit odd from a straight\nJudeo-Christian interpretation for a prophet in a play called Eschatology and Genesis" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "This doesn't strike me as particularly pagan - Moses leading the tribes \nthrough the desert could have looked much the same, and he did \nsympathetic magic like nailing an effigy snake to a pole to ward off \ndeath by snake venom." }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com\nComputational Intelligence Laboratory - Texas A&M Texarkana\n< http://www.tamut.edu/CIL >" } ] } ] }