# Seeing the signs..... *The Urth list — 3 messages, 2 voices, 16 Dec 2010* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Lee Berman *16 Dec 2010, 12:44* > Jeff Wilson: I'm not sure it's consistent to include Agia's hex sign scribbled in the dust and > not the beats or masks painted on the towers, or the theatrical masks appearing in various places. Ryan does say: "If you have more to add, by all means share." I'd be interested in more detail or text quotes for your contributions, Jeff. The jurupari hex sign is wreathed in letters so I think it needs inclusion on the list. I was most confused by the inclusion of Gurloes' iron phallus. Severian thinks it is a symbol but then realizes it is not. It is just a plain old tool (argh! sorry). Given my current exploration of the role of Dionysus and Great God Pan in the Sun series I was less interested in the PROPHET's crudely carved staff and more interested in the goatskin he was wearing (heh). Another Inire-Faunus-Inuus reference? Awfully pagan at any rate, which might be a bit odd from a straight Judeo-Christian interpretation for a prophet in a play called Eschatology and Genesis . Still, at least two possible Inire incarnations do carry a staff, one topped with a monkey-head another with a man-head. --- ### Lee Berman *16 Dec 2010, 12:44 · follows Lee Berman* > Jeff Wilson: I'm not sure it's consistent to include Agia's hex sign scribbled in the dust and > not the beats or masks painted on the towers, or the theatrical masks appearing in various places. Ryan does say: "If you have more to add, by all means share." I'd be interested in more detail or text quotes for your contributions, Jeff. The jurupari hex sign is wreathed in letters so I think it needs inclusion on the list. I was most confused by the inclusion of Gurloes' iron phallus. Severian thinks it is a symbol but then realizes it is not. It is just a plain old tool (argh! sorry). Given my current exploration of the role of Dionysus and Great God Pan in the Sun series I was less interested in the PROPHET's crudely carved staff and more interested in the goatskin he was wearing (heh). Another Inire-Faunus-Inuus reference? Awfully pagan at any rate, which might be a bit odd from a straight Judeo-Christian interpretation for a prophet in a play called Eschatology and Genesis . Still, at least two possible Inire incarnations do carry a staff, one topped with a monkey-head another with a man-head. --- ### Jeff Wilson *16 Dec 2010, 20:48 · in reply to Lee Berman* > On 12/16/2010 6:44 AM, Lee Berman wrote: >> Jeff Wilson: I'm not sure it's consistent to include Agia's hex sign scribbled in the dust and >> not the beats or masks painted on the towers, or the theatrical masks appearing in various places. > Ryan does say: "If you have more to add, by all means share." I'd be interested in more detail or > text quotes for your contributions, Jeff. > > The jurupari hex sign is wreathed in letters so I think it needs inclusion on the list. I was most > confused by the inclusion of Gurloes' iron phallus. Severian thinks it is a symbol but then realizes > it is not. It is just a plain old tool (argh! sorry). > > Given my current exploration of the role of Dionysus and Great God Pan in the Sun series I was less > interested in the PROPHET's crudely carved staff and more interested in the goatskin he was wearing (heh). > Another Inire-Faunus-Inuus reference? Awfully pagan at any rate, which might be a bit odd from a straight > Judeo-Christian interpretation for a prophet in a play called Eschatology and Genesis This doesn't strike me as particularly pagan - Moses leading the tribes through the desert could have looked much the same, and he did sympathetic magic like nailing an effigy snake to a pole to ward off death by snake venom. ``` Jeff Wilson - jwilson at io.com Computational Intelligence Laboratory - Texas A&M Texarkana < http://www.tamut.edu/CIL > ``` ---