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    "id": 5871,
    "subject": "Speaking of Art..",
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    "first": "2011-01-05T14:04:22+00:00",
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        "name": "Lee Berman",
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      "date": "2011-01-05T14:04:22+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Speaking of Art..",
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          "text": "aaron: Have any of you guys or girls ever seen a picture of Gene Wolfe as a young\nman?  I have (saw a wedding photo on Google books a couple years back), and\nit seems to me that his description of Severian could've just as easily\ndescribed himself as a young man.  It would also be another case of Wolfe\nplacing himself in one of his stories."
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          "text": " \nI think you are right. Without having seen that photo, I've always assumed Severian\nresembled Gene Wolfe as a younger guy. Supporting evidence is that Number Five (whose\nname is Gene Wolfe) resembles Severian. (also, Phaedria from 5HoC resembles Thecla in \nhair color, widow's peak and violet eyes; who might she \"be\"?). \t\t \t   \t\t  "
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      "from": {
        "name": "DAVID STOCKHOFF",
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      "date": "2011-01-05T15:37:12+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Speaking of Art..",
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          "text": "Rosemary Wolfe?\n\n--- On Wed, 1/5/11, Lee Berman <severiansola at hotmail.com> wrote:"
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          "text": "From: Lee Berman <severiansola at hotmail.com>\nSubject: (urth) Speaking of Art..\nTo: urth at lists.urth.net\nDate: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 9:04 AM\naaron: Have any of you guys or girls ever seen a picture of Gene Wolfe as a young\nman? I have (saw a wedding photo on Google books a couple years back), and\nit seems to me that his description of Severian could've just as easily\ndescribed himself as a young man. It would also be another case of Wolfe\nplacing himself in one of his stories."
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          "text": " \nI think you are right. Without having seen that photo, I've always assumed Severian\nresembled Gene Wolfe as a younger guy. Supporting evidence is that Number Five (whose\nname is Gene Wolfe) resembles Severian. (also, Phaedria from 5HoC resembles Thecla in \nhair color, widow's peak and violet eyes; who might she \"be\"?). ??? ???????? ?????? ??? ? "
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      "from": {
        "name": "Lane Haygood",
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      "date": "2011-01-05T15:55:33+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Speaking of Art..",
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          "text": "Admittedly, I'm not much of a writer, but if I gave my wife a knife to kill herself and later ate her brain to gain her memories, I think she'd just as soon not have me put her in the story. \n\nSent from my iPhone"
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          "text": "On Jan 5, 2011, at 9:37 AM, DAVID STOCKHOFF <dstockhoff at verizon.net> wrote:\nRosemary Wolfe?\n\n--- On Wed, 1/5/11, Lee Berman <severiansola at hotmail.com> wrote:\n\nFrom: Lee Berman <severiansola at hotmail.com>\nSubject: (urth) Speaking of Art..\nTo: urth at lists.urth.net\nDate: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 9:04 AM"
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          "text": "aaron: Have any of you guys or girls ever seen a picture of Gene Wolfe as a young\nman?  I have (saw a wedding photo on Google books a couple years back), and\nit seems to me that his description of Severian could've just as easily\ndescribed himself as a young man.  It would also be another case of Wolfe\nplacing himself in one of his stories."
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          "text": "I think you are right. Without having seen that photo, I've always assumed Severian\nresembled Gene Wolfe as a younger guy. Supporting evidence is that Number Five (whose\nname is Gene Wolfe) resembles Severian. (also, Phaedria from 5HoC resembles Thecla in \nhair color, widow's peak and violet eyes; who might she \"be\"?).                           \n_______________________________________________"
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      "date": "2011-01-05T16:38:40+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Speaking of Art..",
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          "text": "But you must also admit that, since you're not a writer, you are ipso facto not married to a writer's wife, and therefore you have no idea what a writer's wife will put up with.\nUnless you ARE, in which case, well, we don't need to know about that. :0\n\n--- On Wed, 1/5/11, Lane Haygood <lhaygood at gmail.com> wrote:\n\nFrom: Lane Haygood <lhaygood at gmail.com>\nSubject: Re: (urth) Speaking of Art..\nTo: \"The Urth Mailing List\" <urth at lists.urth.net>\nDate: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 10:55 AM\n\nAdmittedly, I'm not much of a writer, but if I gave my wife a knife to kill herself and later ate her brain to gain her memories, I think she'd just as soon not have me put her in the story.\n\nSent from my iPhone\nOn Jan 5, 2011, at 9:37 AM, DAVID STOCKHOFF <dstockhoff at verizon.net> wrote:\n\nRosemary Wolfe?\n\n--- On Wed, 1/5/11, Lee Berman <severiansola at hotmail.com> wrote:"
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          "text": "From: Lee Berman <severiansola at hotmail.com>\nSubject: (urth) Speaking of Art..\nTo: urth at lists.urth.net\nDate: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 9:04 AM\naaron: Have any of you guys or girls ever seen a picture of Gene Wolfe as a young\nman? I have (saw a wedding photo on Google books a couple years back), and\nit seems to me that his description of Severian could've just as easily\ndescribed himself as a young man. It would also be another case of Wolfe\nplacing himself in one of his stories."
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          "text": " \nI think you are right. Without having seen that photo, I've always\n assumed Severian\nresembled Gene Wolfe as a younger guy. Supporting evidence is that Number Five (whose\nname is Gene Wolfe) resembles Severian. (also, Phaedria from 5HoC resembles Thecla in \nhair color, widow's peak and violet eyes; who might she \"be\"?). ??? ???????? ?????? ??? ? "
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