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  "thread": {
    "id": 5894,
    "subject": "Levels of meaning (was Re:  Green Is Urth Redux)",
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    "first": "2011-01-12T17:55:56+00:00",
    "last": "2011-01-12T17:55:56+00:00"
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      "message_id": "<AANLkTikLhvvRco8YLhhaOT0Ac9WJPuRzrWS1QU9O3uVe@mail.gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes",
        "address": "danldo at gmail.com"
      },
      "date": "2011-01-12T17:55:56+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Levels of meaning (was Re:  Green Is Urth Redux)",
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          "text": "Lee Berman wrote:\nI preferred Wolfe's\nexplanation of how the Alzabo was a metaphor for his former mega-corp employer, Procter and Gamble. For\nme that's where the true human understanding of the *meaning* of the text is found)"
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          "text": "Oh, aye. We're in agreement there; I was just tweaking this whole\nsilly argument about whether there are domes on Lune or what. What\nreally matters is that Lune stands green in the sky as a symbol of\nman's past engineering glory, to which Vodalus foolishly thinks he can\nrestore the world. It is a doubled symbol of decadance: the\ntechnological decadance that has fallen so far from the ability to do\nsuch things; and the moral decadance that said \"just because we can,\nwe should.\"\n\nAgreed also that Wolfe's not going to let a hard-science difficulty\nstand in the way of a cool story point. (The alzabo itself is patently\nridiculous on a hard-science basis, but chilling as hell as a monster\nand neat as a symbol of being devoured by The Machine.) But, he does\ntake pains to make a lot of his story at least surface-plausible.\n(Well, maybe the alzabo isn't completely ridiculous: if it isn't a\nnative animal of some far world, but bioengineered by humans to\nproduce the analeptic...)"
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          "text": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes"
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