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  "thread": {
    "id": 5919,
    "subject": "(no subject)",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "2011-01-18T14:53:34+00:00",
    "last": "2011-01-18T15:08:08+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<SNT123-W60C8C95E6571C90343631FCFF70@phx.gbl>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Lee Berman",
        "address": "severiansola at hotmail.com"
      },
      "date": "2011-01-18T14:53:34+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) (no subject)",
      "in_reply_to": null,
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      "blocks": [
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "I guess I can't exactly hate racism..how can I hate what is an\nintegral part of my own species?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Hate the sin, love the sinner..."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "QFT; the instinctive tribalism in the human animal is not an excuse for \nthe practice of racism, any more than instinctive elimination is an \nexcuse for peeing on the wall when nature calls."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": " \nIt should be quite clear that absence of hate does not equal \"excuse\". \n \nMy own personal philosophy is that encouraging any kind of hate is a sin \nalways worth avoiding. Certainly a worse sin than, say, peeing on a wall ;- ).\n  \t\t \t   \t\t  "
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<4D35ACD8.9010709@gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "James Wynn",
        "address": "crushtv at gmail.com"
      },
      "date": "2011-01-18T15:08:08+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) (no subject)",
      "in_reply_to": "<SNT123-W60C8C95E6571C90343631FCFF70@phx.gbl>",
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      "blocks": [
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 3,
          "text": "I guess I can't exactly hate racism..how can I hate what is an\nintegral part of my own species?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "QFT; the instinctive tribalism in the human animal is not an excuse for\nthe practice of racism, any more than instinctive elimination is an\nexcuse for peeing on the wall when nature calls."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "It should be quite clear that absence of hate does not equal \"excuse\".\nMy own personal philosophy is that encouraging any kind of hate is a sin\nalways worth avoiding. Certainly a worse sin than, say, peeing on a wall ;- )."
        },
        {
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          "text": "All morality is about causing people to act contrary to their natural \ninclinations. This is the problem with using surveys (such as the Kinsey \nReport) to determine the opinions we ought to have toward some behavior. \n\"Okay, it's common. So what?\" This goes for racism but it also goes for \nanything else you could mention. But equating the use of a word with \n'racism' or anything other \"ism\" in absence of context is moronic. \nStill, Huckleberry Finn is not a book written for Elementary or Middle \nSchoolers, so I don't understand the need for a bowdlerized version.\n\nOn the other hand, in WWII (the only war left to us for which it is \npolitically correct to say was \"just\"), soldiers were encouraged to hate \nthe Nazi society and the Imperial Japanese society and the armies that \nprotected them. Many never got over it. My favorite uncle, who fought \nhand-to-hand on Iwo Jima wanted nothing to do with Japanese products \nuntil the day he died. Still, I don't know if one can argue this is \n'sin' if he simultaneously argues that war can be a necessary evil.\n\nu+16b9"
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