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    "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/5979",
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  "thread": {
    "id": 5979,
    "subject": "This wek in Google alerts; story with Gaiman.",
    "messages": 1,
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    "first": "2011-02-20T20:39:32+00:00",
    "last": "2011-02-20T20:39:32+00:00"
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      "message_id": "<AANLkTikMpwbLk8zJEXFMJTnqO2MgXwXyCC5HqiW-8rTt@mail.gmail.com>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Andrew Mason",
        "address": "andrew.mason53 at googlemail.com"
      },
      "date": "2011-02-20T20:39:32+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) This wek in Google alerts; story with Gaiman.",
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          "text": "Gerry Quinn wrote:\nHmm, I have never been inclined to take Cyriaca's story as other than a myth\nwith perhaps a grain of truth to it. ?(Though Cordwainer Smith's future\nhistory contains a similar event.)"
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          "text": "I'm sure Cyriaca's story has been embellished, but I think it likely\nthat something like that happened, since it explains something which\nis otherwise mysterious; how there are a lot of cultural memories of\nour time in a world which is, in physical terms, immeasurably distant\nfrom ours. (Also, Malrubius confirms the bit about machines producing\nghostly companions.)"
        },
        {
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          "text": "Your idea about the Whorl cultures is interesting. “They *do* seem rather\nmore unique and 'ethnic' than one would expect from colonists coming from a\nworld which was surely at least as much a global village as our own. ?On the\nother hand, the 'Indian' type culture in Gaon seems to speak the same\nlanguage as that spoken in Viron (or does it”). ?The Trivigauntis have their\nown 'high language' but their normal language seems to be the same as in\nViron. ?The Sleepers do not seem to have any specially imposed cultural\nnorms. ?It is hard to put any definitive pattern to it."
        },
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          "text": "It seems that most people on the Whorl use the common speech, which I\ntake to be the same as the speech used in the Commonwealth, and by the\nhuman sailors on Tzadkiel's ship; I suppose it was once a lingua\nfranca on Urth, though in Severian's time it's not spoken everywhere.\n\nIt seems upper class Trivigauntis don't normally use the common speech\n- at one point a soldier fakes unfamiliarity with it so as to seem\nupper class. Silk is puzzled by the idea of different classes in the\nsame society using different languages; he asks Hossaan about it, but\nas far as I can remember doesn't get an answer.\n\nSome communities on the Whorl - presumably incuding Urbs - are said to\nuse Latin. I don't know if it's actual Latin, or a language archaic in\nTyphon's time being represented by Latin, but in any case I take it\nit's not anyone's natural language on Urth, but part of a deliberate\nexperiment.\n\nAlthough Viron doesn't use any language other than the common speech,\nthere seem to be memories of a different language in the Spanish terms\nused for some official things - Ayuntamiento, etc."
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "- Gerry Quinn"
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